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bolino
 
Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 02:14 pm
hello , can you please help me to describe this old antic marble
it was discovered in a place known to be an old roman city in the south of France.
the link of the photo is :http://www.zupimages.net/up/15/23/4xin.jpg
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 02:19 pm
@bolino,
Looks like Alexander The Great, wearing a Lion Headdress.

Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 02:21 pm
@Lordyaswas,
There y'go.......but it's Herakles (Heracles, Hercules).


https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7529/16100997941_9cbd2b9dc6.jpg


Coin collectors page......
http://akropoliscoins.com/page2b.html
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 02:22 pm
http://www.zupimages.net/up/15/23/4xin.jpg
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bolino
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 02:42 pm
thanks , for your help , yes it seems to be Hercule wearing the Nemee lion
( the 1 first labor of Hercule) but i have seen also that many roman emperor loved to be represented as hercule . i m in an roman area , it might be a representation of one of the roman emperor ....
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 02:46 pm
@bolino,
I don't know, but Hercules was about THE most popular god to worship around that time.

Are you down on the Mediterranean Coast, by any chance?

Not far from Monaco, maybe?
bolino
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 02:56 pm
@Lordyaswas,
yes that's it very near of monaco , roman tomb where found 400 hundreds meters far away of the location of the present marble.
You can' t see it but this marble is big i think diameter 60 cm or maybe more
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 02:56 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Ze name ees Pwah'Rowe'-, Er cuuule' Pwah-rowe'
bolino
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 02:58 pm
@farmerman,
please can you explain ? Pwah'Rowe'????
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 02:59 pm
@bolino,
not really, Im from Andora
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 03:03 pm
@bolino,
I think that farmerman is referring to a famous fictional Belgian Detective.


The reason I mentioned Monaco is because they found a big shrine to Hercules there, and I remember the experts thinking that the Greeks had landed there in the dim and distant past, and their influence was still around when the Romans came to stay. Romams used to incorporate any and every god they came across, and would have had their own temples to Hercules, to add to all the other gods they worshipped.

I think they were playing safe,
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 03:32 pm
I think it looks closer to this
http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/83/Sequani_coin_5th_to_1st_century_BCE.jpg

http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/11548662

The Civitas Tungrorum was a large Roman administrative district. In the early days of the Roman empire it was in the province of Gallia Belgica, but it later joined the neighbouring lower Rhine river border districts, within the province of Germania Inferior. Its capital was Aduatuca Tungrorum, which is modern Tongeren.

Like many Roman administrative districts, this one was named after the tribal grouping that lived there, the Tungri, although in this case the Tungri is not a name known from the area before it became part of the Roman empire.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 03:48 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Ze name ees Pwah'Rowe'-, Er cuuule' Pwah-rowe'


well, you made me laugh.
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 04:00 pm
@CalamityJane,
That marble definitely has someone wearing a lions headdress, cj.

Your chap is chiselled, but lacking anything leo-like as far as I can see.

I'm still voting Hercule.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 05:35 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Yes, you're right...after searching some more, it's the only one it could be.

http://www.trustedcoins.com/images/i37235ob.jpg
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2015 04:17 am
I think it could be Vespasian all dressed up and ready to go.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4057/4634787368_236c7ddd22_b.jpg
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2015 05:21 am
Or Commodus.

He used to like dressing up as Hercules.

http://www.bible-history.com/past/art/commodus_hercules_close.jpg

Commodus also invented the portable toilet, I believe.


<twiddles moustache and chortles>
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bolino
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2015 07:10 am
Ok so let's synthetize all the informations posted here

You all think that s marble is in interval of the 1st century bc to 1 sentury ?

Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2015 08:32 am
@bolino,
I'm no expert on marble sculptures, and would recommend getting some answers from the relevant museum in the area.

It could even be older.....this from Wikipedia....

"During the 6th-century B.C. Phocaeans from Massalia (modern day Marseille) founded the colony of Monoikos.[2] The name of the colony derives from the local veneration of the Roman god Hercules, who was said to have constructed the ancient path that passed through the region from Spain to Italy.[2] The Roman emperor Julian also wrote of Hercules's construction of Monaco's port and a coastal road.[3] The road was dotted with altars to Hercules, and a temple dedicated to him was established on the Rock of Monaco. The name Port Hercules was subsequently used for the ancient port.[2] Monoeci meaning "Single One" or Monoikos meaning "Single House" could be a reference to Hercules or his temple, or the isolated community inhabiting the area around the rock.[2]

According to the "travels of Hercules" theme, also documented by Diodorus Siculus and Strabo, both Greeks and native Ligurian people asserted that Hercules passed through the area."

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Monaco#Greek_colonization_and_Herculean_legend
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