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insect indentification

 
 
Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2004 10:36 am
hello all, I am new here. When I arrived the first time it was from a search that led to a post full of pictures of insects and animals. I have not been able to find it again, so I hope this is a decent place to ask. I figured "gardens" are outside, so was my bug, haha. If there is a better area to post this please let me know.

I have a picture of the current bug in question and would like to know what it is.

http://www.angelfire.com/art2/originalgoober/images/dragon_treefly.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/art2/originalgoober/images/dragon_treefly_side.jpg

Everything that i've found thusfar has been off atleast just a little bit. It's most like an imago(adult antlion) except for the size, the one in the pic was 3-4 inches long and I read imagos in the United States only get to about 1.5". I don't think it's a damselfly, could be wrong though. No pictures have matched yet. It's a type of something, though, right?

I am just curious for the sake of furthering my own knowledge ...and labeling the photos.

uh, I see pics must be on the web to be shown. Is the administration working on having pics uploadable? Hope so.

help me out please. Thank you greatly.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Fri 2 Jul, 2004 02:58 am
the following page contains an insect identification key, along with instructions on how to use it.

http://www.earthlife.net/insects/orders-key.html

You may need to look up a little insect physiology to determine the anatomical parts that some of the questions refer to. I can't see enough in the picture to go through it myself.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Fri 2 Jul, 2004 05:44 am
The closest I was able to get was order Odonata-dragonflies, damselflies etc
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originalgoober
 
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Reply Fri 2 Jul, 2004 08:02 am
thank you much Wilso. I'm still not satisfied, even after pursuing some of the possibilities from the key on google image search. I have found several things that it is not, however. This may prove useful. I am checking into damselfly (again) and lacewing varieties. Thanks for the link.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Fri 2 Jul, 2004 09:09 am
Could be a lacewing (neuroptera I believe). How big is your specimen?
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originalgoober
 
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Reply Fri 2 Jul, 2004 01:07 pm
I'd say it was about 3", head to wing-tip. 1.25" at widest point of resting wings. I would guess around 4.5" wingspan. Slow flapping and moving.

I had walked around a tree and it apparently thought is could be a danger so it flew from it's resting place to the other side of the same tree. I walked back around the look at it, and there it stayed for several pics. some taken (above included) within 2-4 inches. While rotating my focus ring, i accidentally brushed it and it flew back to the other side and higher, out of reach. I was satisfied with my photos and let it be.

I haven't found a variation of Neuroptera that is quite like it. It does fall in most of the catagories, usually an exception somewhere though. With it's size, it is not a typical lacewing, .........WAIT!

AH HA. This looks like it! An antlion, finally a matching photo.

http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~insects/antlion.gif
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http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~insects/quest3.htm

It is a bad picture but, certainly the same creature.

I believe we have a winner. And now we know the rest of the story. (<sorry, lack of sleep) I swear the measurements i read for them were "up to 1.5" ".

Thanks for your help, you deserve a raise.
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