It'll be different when you have one of your own

Finn dAbuzz
Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 10:26 am
Pride cometh before the fall.
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2014 08:37 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:
The risk on the cliff and with the croc are far, far greater, and the rewards far, far less (nice to have the picture? Really?)
According to Norwegian media, there has (had?) been a kind of contest for such photos.

Wow even better -- put your baby at risk so you can win a contest! I am in! What the h*ll I've only known the kid a year couldn't get that attached to him - worth it to get $50 and my picture in the paper!
Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2014 08:50 am
I told a co-worker about this picture over the weekend.

He's an avid rock climber, snow boarder, jet skis etc. He sells all the equipment for these sports, and really knows his stuff. He also has an 8 month old daughter.

I wish I had taken a picture of the look of disgust on his face.
Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2014 09:21 am
I just thought of something. I don't know if it said anything about it in the article, but I wonder if the people above taking that picture yelled down to those people "Get that baby away from the edge!"

I'm certain I would have. Regardless of what their response would have been. I'm pretty sure they would have told me the child was perfectly safe. Rolling Eyes Maybe though, it would have woken one of them up to the fact as to the stupid thing they were doing.

Pre cell phone days, I pulled into a 7-11 and saw a toddler in a car seat, in a car with the windows all open. The motor was running, keys in the ignition. I looked in the store, where there was only one customer, the mother, who was buying beer and cigarettes (and probably lottery tickets.) I remember standing there talking to the kid, who was friendly, and not at all leery of me. When the mother came out and I gave her hell, she indignantly told me she "had an eye on the kid" all the time. I said "yeah? So you saw me standing out here standing next to the drivers door, talking to to him?
She was a nasty skank, and it was an obvious situation, but you have to point out these things, and speak up.

Does anyone remember these types of Cutex nail polish bottles?


I was at an airport, and watched a little one in a stroller holding one of these and gumming and sucking on the small tapered end. The bottle had to be slick with spit. All I could envision was that small end going down the hatch, cutting off the airway, and someone trying to grab onto a slippery smooth bottle lodged down his throat.

Of course though, when I told the mother I thought that looked dangerous, she assured me it was perfectly safe (although she did take the bottle away)

Oh yeah, motherhood gives everyone powers beyond my ken.
Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2014 10:16 am
There is just no way to fix stupid.
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Finn dAbuzz
Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2014 03:41 pm
This, in turn, reminds me of a situation a few years back in which my toddler nephew was walking around the patio with a real-life hammer in his hands. His mother (my sister-in-law) was totally nonchalant about it, although you could cut the tension among the rest of us with a knife.

Admittedly my mother-in-law was a "worry wart" to the nth degree, and could be a real pain in the ass about kids safety (more than once I had to politely advise her to mind her own business when she questioned such things as a 3 year old eating raisins - "They can choke!" or giving a 5 year old Children's Tylenol - "It will ruin their livers!) but she wasn't the only one who was alarmed. My father-in-law who was the complete opposite of his wife looked worried, and so did my wife.

Such events had arisen before though and we knew the mother didn't take kindly to advice about the kid, and that she ignored it anyway. It was obvious the three other adults were more worried about her reaction than the little lad swinging a hammer.

We were sitting around a glass cocktail table and when he started to swing the hammer and was thrown forward by its weight, I reached in and gently removed it from his hand; distracting him with a funny face or some gibberish. As expected, his mother responded something to the effect of "Oh, I'm Ok with it. I don't like to limit his freedom," to which I replied, "I know, but all I can see is the hammer breaking the glass table and him getting sliced up, or him somehow burying the claw in his head, and it’s driving me nuts. I can't stand the tension. He'll be OK without it."

His mother gave me a withering look, but I had the hammer and I guess she either knew I wasn't going to give it back to him, or would have felt stupid insisting that I did, especially since I was playing with him and he was fine about not having it any longer.

When the mother left the area to get something my wife and her mother said "Thank God you did that, it was giving me a heart attack!"

I very rarely interfere, in any way, with how parents deal with their kids. I may give them unsolicited advice if I think they’re not aware of a danger or concern, but I figure that they're only going to do it when I'm not around, so why waste my breath and possibly piss them off. This, however, was a case of preventing an imminent accident, and taking four adults of tenterhooks.

Explaining it as "I'm a nervous wreck about kids and accidents and it was driving me crazy!" seems to work on the rare occasions I've used it. When you take matters into your own hands you don't have to worry about whether the parents have the sense to listen to you, and what are they going to do? Wrestle the hammer, saw, or knife back from me and stick it in the kid's hand again? Pick up the kid and move him back to the middle of the street? Tell the kid to go and stick his hand in my dog’s mouth again?

I'm all for letting parents raise their kids the way they want, but when there's a really good chance the kid's going to get hurt, someone else's property is going to get damaged, someone else is going to get hurt, or everyone in the room is a nervous wreck, I'll act and worry about the fallout later.

I think with the case of the kid on the ledge, I would just turn around, walk away and say a prayer for the child. Trying to remove him from the edge would have been too dangerous a move in and of itself, and likely to trigger a defensive response in the parents. It's obvious from the photo that they knew where he was, so saying something like "You better watch your kid or he's going to fall a thousand feet to his death," probably would have fallen on deaf ears.

What drives me nuts is that people like my sister-in-law (and probably the folks in the photos) think that just because a disaster has never resulted, none ever will and that there laisse faire parenting has been repeatedly validated. Of course it's just a matter of time, before the disaster come about.

You can run 10 stop signs in a row and not have a wreck, but if, as a result, you conclude that stop signs are pointless, you are an idiot.
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