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Japan's Official Pacifism Undergoing Reinterpretation

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jul, 2014 09:50 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Third party prayers do not work; that's been researched at both Harvard and Yale Universities. Your problem is religious ignorance.

A spouse has the right to refuse prayers. What's your problem? Forced prayer?

You should watch George Carlin on "prayer." It's a gas, and it's factual.

Finally, those who performed research on prayer and concluded that prayer works are those who have the highest interest to have prayer work. In other words, they are people of religion. It's called 'conflict of interest,' and most of those research leaves out many of the necessary information that the research was performed in a scientific manner.

If you don't believe this, do your own 'research on prayer.' Get a group of religious friends - say 25, and pray for a third party patient no one knows with heart disease. Have the patient's doctor record before and after condition of the patient vs average progress or deterioration. Do that for 10 patients, and find your results.
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MWal
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jul, 2014 12:16 pm
Passive is only okay for your people, but the evil needs to die from man so let death do its thing to. If we just declare peace we get stuck witch unwanted people. So have peace with our people, and go. Just tell me what to do about evil. Does it not exist? Maybe it's an illusion, but it needs to be dealt with, and tell me if that's passive? If its just passive and let's all the bad people go someone is getting hurt.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jul, 2014 12:33 pm
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Cicerone said to me: Third party prayers do not work; that's been researched at both Harvard and Yale Universities. Your problem is religious ignorance.

Ha ha, prayer can't be "researched" in experiments..Smile
Einstein said- "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one'',
so if we regard our "reality" as nothing more than a dream, we can regard Jesus as a 'Master of the Art of Dream Manipulation" which is how he performed what people regarded as miracles.
Likewise "prayer" might simply be "thought-pressure" which affects this dream called reality..Smile

"All that we see or seem, is but a dream within a dream" Edgar Allen Poe
"You can be in my dream if i can be in your dream" -Bob Dylan
"We are such stuff as dreams are made on" -The Tempest
"Strawberry Fields...nothing is real" - The Beatles
"What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" - Bible,James 4:14
"Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?"- Morpheus in The Matrix

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jul, 2014 12:34 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Says you! LMAO

Most things that are repeated and can be observed and recorded can be researched. Do you understand anything about science?

That prayer can't be researched is the height of ignorance!
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jul, 2014 01:06 pm
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Cicerone said: Most things that are repeated and can be observed and recorded can be researched. Do you understand anything about science?
That prayer can't be researched is the height of ignorance!

Technically I'm a scientist myself, I got College of Preceptors exam passes in General Science and Advanced Science in 1963 and worked in a couple of labs after I left school..Smile
My field was physics, I could never raise much enthusiasm for chemistry (too smelly) and biology (too stomach-churning).

The reason prayer can't be tested in experiments is because negative vibes from bystanders will disrupt it.
Remember when Jesus went to bring that little girl back to life and everybody laughed at him? He had to kick them and their neg vibes out of the room, and only let her parents and a couple of disciples stay before he could bring her back..Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Jesus-girl.jpg

PS- prayer worked bigtime for the Japanese..Wink
In 1281 Mongol Emperor Kublai Khan sailed towards Japan with a force of 140,000 troops.
Japanese religious leaders prayed for deliverance as the invasion fleet approached.
A huge typhoon (later called the Divine Wind) hit the fleet, sinking many of the Mongol ships. Half the troops perished and the rest fled back to China

http://b-29s-over-korea.com/Japanese_Kamikaze/Japanese_Kamikaze01.html
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jul, 2014 01:14 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
This is hilarious!
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The reason prayer can't be tested in experiments is because negative vibes from bystanders will disrupt it.


Do it in a church, anywhere away from crowds, on a boat, or on top of Mt Everest! LOL Shocked Shocked Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

And you call yourself a 'scientist?' Amazing.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2014 06:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Japan's prayers for help whipped up a tornado that sunk the Mongol fleet, there ya go..Smile
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2014 07:22 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Wrong god. Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2014 10:48 am
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Japan’s Self-Defense Defense
(Joseph S. Nye, Opinion Essay, August 6, 2014)

CAMBRIDGE – Since the end of World War II, Japan has been ruled by an American-written “peace constitution,” Article 9 of which prohibits war and limits Japanese forces to self-defense. Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is now seeking legislation to enable Japan to reinterpret the constitution to include “collective self-defense,” whereby the country would enhance its security cooperation with other countries, particularly its closest ally, the United States.

Critics view this as a radical departure from seven decades of pacifism. But Abe’s central objectives – improving Japan’s ability to respond to threats that do not amount to armed attack; enabling Japan to participate more effectively in international peacekeeping activities; and redefining measures for self-defense permitted under Article 9 – are actually relatively modest.

Fears that the move would lead to Japanese involvement in distant US wars are similarly overblown. Indeed, the rules have been carefully crafted to prohibit such adventures, while allowing Japan to work more closely with the US on direct threats to Japanese security.

Read more at http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/joseph-s--nye-explains-why-the-abe-government-s-new-military-doctrine-is-a-positive-development#BiTBTCW4riqOwWmL.99
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2014 01:23 pm
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NAGASAKI MAYOR QUESTIONS POLICY ON A-BOMB DAY
By MARI YAMAGUCHI— Aug. 9, 2014

TOKYO (AP) — The mayor of Nagasaki on Saturday criticized Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's push toward Japan's more assertive defense policy, as the city marked the 69th anniversary of the atomic bombing.

In his "peace declaration" speech at the ceremony in Nagasaki's Peace Park, Mayor Tomihisa Taue urged Abe's government to listen to growing public concerns over Japan's commitment to its pacifist pledge.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/nagasaki-mayor-questions-policy-bomb-day-0
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Tue 19 Aug, 2014 03:26 pm
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Anniversary of war’s end sees Japan still committed to path of peace
August 15, 2014, The Yomiuri Shimbun

Today, Aug. 15, marks again the anniversary of the end of the war.

This is the day we renew our pledge of peace and our determination not to engage in war, while also quietly paying tribute to the memory of those who died in World War II.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s administration decided in July on a new constitutional interpretation that acknowledged the country’s limited ability to exercise the right of collective self-defense.

In connection with this, Mayor Tomihisa Taue of Nagasaki expressed “anxiety and apprehension” in the Peace Declaration of Nagasaki on the 69th anniversary of the atomic bombing of that city on Aug. 9, stating that “the rushed debate over collective self-defense has given rise to the concern that this principle [of pacifism] is wavering.” Others are also averse to the government’s reinterpretation of the Constitution, making such claims as that the new government view could “pave the way for Japan to again take part in a war.”
http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0001499313
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MWal
 
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Reply Tue 19 Aug, 2014 03:43 pm
We need to unite with Japan. People is power, the more people the better.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2014 03:41 pm
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Return of the samurai: Japan steps away from pacifist constitution as military eyes threat from China
(Matthew Carney, Australian Broadcasting Corporation, August 19, 2014)

Ever since it surrendered to the allies at the end of World War II, Japan's military effort has been homebound.

The Japanese Self-Defence Forces have been precisely that – remaining vigilant to outside threats but constitutionally restrained from striking the first blow.

Now, with an assertive China throwing its weight around in North Asia, there is a developing inclination among Japan's leadership to take its tactical lead from another playbook: that the best form of defence is attack.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-19/japan-expands-their-military-amid-growing-tensions-with-china/5672932
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Wed 27 Aug, 2014 01:21 pm
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Aged Japan veterans voice concerns about military policy shift
BY KIYOSHI TAKENAKA
TOKYO, August 14, 2014

(Reuters) - Tokuro Inokuma, a former Imperial Japanese Army soldier, got his first taste of the horrors of war in 1945 when he scrambled to gather up the scattered limbs of his fellow servicemen, blown apart by a U.S. air raid in Japan. He was 16.

One of a dwindling number of World War Two veterans, Inokuma now finds troubling echoes in Tokyo's policy shift away from the pacifist ideals adhered to after 1945.

"I find it quite dangerous ... This is the path we once took," said Inokuma, who fought in China soon after the deadly air strike, and survived two years in concentration camps in the then-Soviet Union following Japan's surrender.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/14/us-japan-defence-soldiers-idUSKBN0GE04420140814?feedType=RSS&feedName=everything&virtualBrandChannel=11563
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