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ABBA, where Do YOU Stand?

 
 
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2014 01:45 pm
Did Benny and Bjorn dry up and couldn't write songs any more?
Same with McCartney, why doesn't he keep churning out hit songs like he did when he was in the Beatles?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2014 01:53 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Did Benny and Bjorn dry up and couldn't write songs any more?
Same with McCartney, why doesn't he keep churning out hit songs like he did when he was in the Beatles?


they have both been very active, in spite of the fact that they earned most of the ABBA money because they made the music so they dont need any more money...all the girls did was look cute and sing the songs the way the boys told them to do it, so they got paid a lot less.

an example of a great musician going into retirement is Richard Carpenter, who has done very little since Karen died other than reengineering and rereleasing Carpenters music.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2014 02:01 pm
@hawkeye10,
Little Miss Can't Be Wrong . . .
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2014 02:26 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Little Miss Can't Be Wrong . . .


I dont need to be right, I am right.

Start at 2:00

Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2014 02:33 pm
I have very few albums on my walk-around music player. I mostly only use it during walks in Central Park...or walks in the morning on the beach in New Jersey.

Two are classical; two are Sarah Brightman; and one is ABBA.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2014 02:43 pm
@hawkeye10,
No you're not. You are completely ignoring their sales of singles and albums in the United States, for which i provided a link.

InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2014 03:24 pm
Chiquitita, tell me what's wrong?
You're enchained by your own sorrow
In your eyes there is no hope for tomorrow
How I hate to see you like this
There is no way you can deny it
I can see that you're oh so sad, so quiet

Chiquitita, tell me the truth
I'm a shoulder you can cry on
Your best friend, I'm the one you must rely on
You were always sure of yourself
Now I see you've broken a feather
I hope we can patch it up together

Chiquitita, you and I know
How the heartaches come and they go
And the scars they're leaving
You'll be dancing once again and the pain will end
You will have no time for grieving

Chiquitita, you and I cry
And the sun is still in the sky and shining above you
Let me hear you sing once more like you did before
Sing a new song, Chiquitita
Try once more like you did before
Sing a new song, Chiquitita

So the walls came tumbling down
And your love's a blown out candle
All is gone and it seems too hard to handle
Chiquitita, tell me the truth
There is no way you can deny it
I see that you're oh so sad, so quiet

Chiquitita, you and I know
How the heartaches come and they go
And the scars they're leaving
You'll be dancing once again and the pain will end
You will have no time for grieving

Chiquitita, you and I cry
And the sun is still in the sky and shining above you
Let me hear you sing once more like you did before
Sing a new song, Chiquitita
Try once more like you did before
Sing a new song, Chiquitita

Try once more like you did before
Sing a new song, Chiquitita
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2014 03:53 pm
@Setanta,
Australia 16 top 10 songs, 6 making it to #1

America 7 top 10 songs, 2 making it to #1

Germany 20 top 10 songs, 9 making it to #1

http://home.zipworld.com.au/~callisto/abba.html
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2014 04:14 pm
@hawkeye10,
Excellent--it seems that you now recognize that they were popular in the United States.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2014 03:21 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Chess the musical stick packs them in.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2014 05:13 am
i loved their work with the KLF (aka The JAMS)



In 1987, the JAMS, also known as the KLF (Kopyright Liberation Front), released an album titled "1987, What the **** is Going On?" The album heavily sampled the single "Dancing Queen" from the Swedish super-group ABBA. KLF did not clear the samples, and consequently Abba filed a complaint alleging that the samples constituted a copyright infringement. In response to the complaint, in August of 1987, the Mechanical Copyright Protection Society ordered the JAMS to destroy all remaining copies of their "1987" LP .

KLF then decided to engage in a number of rash actions under the theory that if the case ever went to court, it would be to their benefit to have appeared to have done everything to communicate their side of the story. Consequently, they made a pilgrimage to ABBA headquarters in Sweden in a failed attempted to meet the super-group and persuade them to allow them to release the LP.

ABBA refused to meet with KLF. In lieu of meeting with the Swedish super-group, KLF presented a Swedish prostitute with a gold disc. On their return to from Sweden, they found a bucolic farm nestled among Nordic forests, whereupon they proceeded to burn most of the remaining copies of "1987". The plume of smoke filled the valley, attracting the attention of an armed farmer. The event was captured for the cover of their second album.

The ploy eventually worked to some extent in that ABBA agreed to drop the damages charge as long as KLF ceased production of the LP. ABBA basically wanted the percentage that they'd get if KLF were doing a cover version of one of their songs. KLF later released a censored version of the LP with the samples removed, with instructions on how to recreate the original.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2014 11:08 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Excellent--it seems that you now recognize that they were popular in the United States.


they massively underperformed in America, only doing better the last couple of year, and even then they were less popular here than they were in most places.
Ragman
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2014 11:41 am
@hawkeye10,
So..? Do you think they didn't make an impact here? American music industry in the late '70s and early-'80s there was such a diverse selection of musical groups and a broader spectrum of types of music that sold records ... with a lot more discretionary cash than in Europe. Also record promotion differs here than in EU or UK.

It would seem as though having a Broadway play (Mama Mia) about them sure seems to indicate they're far more popular than their initial record sales indicated. They so grew in popularity to a great degree over the years- way beyond the popularity of disco music trend.

Back to the subject, what do I think of Abba? I own zero of their LPs, or CDs. However, I can sing almost all the lyrics to every one of their hits and I play them on Youtube fairly often. I like them,,,but it was because they grew on me. I still like cotton candy too. After all, it's happy music and fun to move and dance to.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2014 01:40 pm
@Ragman,
Mamma mia's audience is almost all an age that was not around when ABBA was playing. I am making no assertion that ABBA popularity lags in America with todays young as it did in the population of the 70's.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2014 01:42 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Mamma mia's audience is almost all an age that was not around when ABBA was playing.


have you been at the theatre for a performance of Mamma Mia? just about the greatest age spread you'll ever find at a show
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2014 01:54 pm
@hawkeye10,
Insipid dreck
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2014 01:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
Ah-hahahahahahahahahahahaha . . . millions of records sold. That's "massiviely underperformed?" You're delusional, and will say anything to appear as though you know what you're talking about. Of course, we already knew that about you.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2014 02:01 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Darn.

I was going to ask you to dance the next time they play "take a chance on me" on WA2K Wink
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2014 02:59 pm
@ehBeth,
Sorry ebeth, as much as I would love the opportunity to dance with you, I will be standing on the sidelines when an ABBA tune is played.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2014 03:01 pm
The notion that this crime has any relevance to "feminism" is utterly absurd and totally undermines any assertion that the person advancing it has anything approaching a serious intelligence.
 

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