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Enlighten ME on How in 2014 a Reported Stolen Passport Still Works

 
 
Linkat
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 03:37 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:

Hawkeye, just because people don't start threads doesn't mean they aren't following the situation online, and doesn't mean they have no interest.


Yeah I think alot of people are kind of sitting and waiting to see what happens - hard to guess unless you really want to speculate. I don't see this as a lack of interest -- just no one knows.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 08:33 pm
It's amazing to me just how much know one knows. The planet is surrounded by satellites of all kinds. Radar, radar transponders, GPS, our planet must be almost saturated with a range of electromagnetic signals. And 200 tonnes of very advanced passenger jet can somehow disappear without a trace. Wish a tech head could explain to me how that happens.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 09:16 pm
@Wilso,
Why dont we know if there was any activity from the cell phones of passengers? If the answer is no then they must have been gassed or the cabin deprived of oxygen.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 09:28 pm
@hawkeye10,
Or, it could be that they neglected to put cell towers in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 09:32 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
In fact, passengers flew without having their travel documents checked against its lost-and-stolen passport database more than a billion times in 2013, according to Interpol.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/13/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-questions/

GREAT!
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 09:38 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Or, it could be that they neglected to put cell towers in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

it was not far off the coast of Malaysia when it turned, and then it flew over Malaysia at 23,000 feet. Gotta think cells would get some reception somewhere. Was the initial climb to 45,000 feet to kill everyone faster?

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2014/03/14/search-for-lost-malaysian-jet-expanding/1go6A6IeGpudZF6eiC2ISN/story.html
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 09:44 pm
I am going with pilot suicide, in this case the old one. SilkAir Flight 185 was Pilot suicide and killed 97, Egypt Air flight 990 almost certainly was and killed 217.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 10:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — Investigators have concluded that one or more people with significant flying experience hijacked the missing Malaysia Airlines jet, switched off communication devices and steered it off-course, a Malaysian government official involved in the investigation said Saturday.

No motive has been established and no demands have been made known, and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media. The official said that hijacking was no longer a theory.

"It is conclusive," he said.

He said evidence that led to the conclusion were signs that the plane's communications were switched off deliberately, data about the flight path and indications the plane was steered in a way to avoid detection by radar


http://news.yahoo.com/malaysian-investigators-conclude-flight-hijacked-035744022.html

That is all consistent with pilot suicide as well. Or maybe he is not dead, just wanted to test to see if he could out wit everyone. All accounts have him a strange bird who did little but fly and play simulators of flying.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 10:48 pm
Report on Australian TV seconds ago said that now considered to be a hi-jack.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 12:22 am
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-15/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-hijacked-investigators-conclude/5323338
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 12:25 am
@Wilso,
Most of the coverage here is about how Malaysia is on a big cya project since they really haven't got a clue about what's going on.
Wilso
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 12:30 am
@ehBeth,
cya?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 12:32 am
@Wilso,
cover your ass
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 12:39 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

cover your ass


You lose a plane for a week with 250+ souls aboard, very likely at the hand of your own pilot.....ya, not much spin potential here.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 12:40 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

Most of the coverage here is about how Malaysia is on a big cya project since they really haven't got a clue about what's going on.


I can live with that conclusion too.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 02:45 pm
Last I've read on it -
oy vey and ai yi yi:

Since I'm no search and rescue or plane finding expert, I'll just give the link. Much interesting, including that somehow India might have been a destination, if I read things right (but I might not be).

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-15/malaysia-sets-new-search-zone-as-flight-deliberately-diverted.html

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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 11:12 pm

Satellite Data:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiyVG9OCMAApXA6.jpg:large
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiwklVICcAAl2YV.jpg:large
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 03:00 pm
Now that we know that communication system shut down stated before the last radio dispatch from the pilot we can be almost positive that one or both cockpit crew are responsible for this hijacking, that it was not a passenger. Current evidence is leaning more towards a muslim terrorist 911 style plot than anything else, that we will in the coming days see this plane slam into something.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 03:09 pm
@hawkeye10,
you think it's been gliding for the past week?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 04:17 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

you think it's been gliding for the past week?


It is on the ground somewhere. If I had to guess I would say one of the "stans", that they were able to go through Burma and Tibet. The Chinese Air Force is newly active in Tibet but I bet they dont have military radar up and running.
 

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