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Weight of the soul?

 
 
Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 07:46 pm
It was alleged that in 1901 a doctor weighed persons before and after death and concluded the bodies weighed 21grams less after death. Would this not have been because of the exhalation of what air was in the deceased lungs? We already know that air has mass, therefore, it has weight. But, is 21grams a viable weight for what the lungs might have held?
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 08:14 pm
@kromur71405,
We don't have souls; we are souls.
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 08:17 pm
@neologist,
Quote:
We don't have souls; we are souls.


Winner of the Best Post Award for Sunday.

Joe(Yes, I am the committee, yes, I am)Nation
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kromur71405
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 08:24 pm
@neologist,
*We don't have souls; we are souls.*

Which sheds no light on the questions posed.
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 08:34 pm
@kromur71405,
Simply makes.the OP irrelevant
kromur71405
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 08:36 pm
@neologist,
I see.

So, you are a moderator or a savant who determines what is relevant and what is not.

Gotcha.

It is humbling to be in the "presence" of such omnipotence. (or, is it omniscience.)

By your leave, eminence.
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 08:41 pm
@kromur71405,
Just my opinion, of course.
I'm sure the topic will grow legs.
Perhaps I will be called on to defend my asseveration.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 08:42 pm
@kromur71405,
kromur71405 wrote:

I see.

So, you are a moderator or a savant who determines what is relevant and what is not.

You're correct. He's the latter here at a2k. What ya going to do?
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Jesse-eisenberg-Shrug-Social-Network.gif
kromur71405
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 08:44 pm
@neologist,
I am sure you will emphatically defend it.
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kromur71405
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 08:47 pm
@tsarstepan,
Continue to read responses from adults who are capable of civil and responsible discussion and debate. Ignore the childish and immature postings of those who add nothing of substance to the discussion. I will leave you to ascertain which description best describes you. Hint; It is not the former.

Good day.
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 09:10 pm
@kromur71405,
Sorrry I didn't say this before. I hadn't seen your profile.
Welcome to the forum.
We are what we are.
Warts and all. But mostly good folks

Your OP has merit in that the myth of immortal soul pervades so many religious persuasions. Perhaps this will result in an understanding of how it came to be.

Have fun
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 10:27 pm
I'm training my soul for the finals and I've gotten it down to 18 grams. Gold metal here we come.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 11:29 pm
@kromur71405,
Where did the idea of soul come from? Here is an interesting notation from Genesis:
Quote:
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. (Genesis 2:7)
BTW, animals also are souls
rosborne979
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 05:51 am
@kromur71405,
Forgetting about the soul (whatever that is) for a second, are you asking what the volume of 21 grams of air is?
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Zarathustra
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 12:52 pm
@kromur71405,
Just off the top of my head human lungs from puberty, say, hold between 3 and 7 liters, depending on the individual. Air weighs about 1 and a quarter gm/liter at STP. So at STP at most about 10 gm. This was all done from memory so it could be off by a bit.

Remember also that it is not unusual for defecation and urination after death as sphincter muscles relax which would be significantly greater than the weight that you noted.
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 01:04 pm
@Zarathustra,
So, are you saying every time you go to the can, you lose your soul?

Scary. Very Happy

Germlat
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 01:08 pm
@neologist,
According to your believed scripture ...tell me where does it say animals have souls...just curious .
Zarathustra
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 01:11 pm
@neologist,
No only when I forget to come here for laughs and attempt to have an adult conversation.
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 01:14 pm
@Germlat,
Depending on the translation, in the first chapter of Genesis. The Hebrew word 'nephesh'
Check: http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/nephesh.html
dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 01:15 pm
@kromur71405,
Quote:
Would this not have been because of the exhalation of what air was in the deceased lungs?
Kro wouldn't it have to be under pressure to increase overall mass
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