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Moral Relativity: Where moral values come from?

 
 
livinglava
 
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Reply Thu 19 Sep, 2019 02:37 pm
It doesn't matter where moral values come from, only if they're right or wrong.

Morality is a compass whose accuracy is tested when you reap whatever you sow by using your compass.

I you fail to foresee consequences for things based on certain moral ideas, that won't prevent you from reaping those consequences.

We learn by trial and error, in this life and hereafter.

The main difficulty people have with morality is when artificial consequences conflict with natural ones. For example, if you follow some rule or rule based on the idea that it will benefit you, but then by doing so you end up causing natural consequences that you didn't expect, you would try to blame the rule you followed, but ultimately no one will be held accountable for misleading you with false rules.
popeye1945
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 04:22 pm
@livinglava,
There are indeed many cultures that have differing moralities, which is to say that they are not all equal, some are indeed very bad, especially cultures which are governed by holy scriptures that where written in the darker, more ignorant times.
Morality is not relative, it is necessarily based upon the common biology of all humanity. That which promotes life and well being is the bases of morality, ultimately it is self interest, one gains protection from a society which functions on such principles. Ones that functions on mythologies/religions, the individuals well being can be a little more dicey, that which promotes life and well being is morality.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2020 10:27 am
@popeye1945,
You make two contradictory statements.

1. There are indeed many cultures that have differing moralities,

2. Morality is not relative, it is necessarily based upon the common biology of all humanity.

They can't both be true.
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Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 18 Nov, 2020 07:30 am
@popeye1945,
Science cannot explain morality. What is the starting point? who/what determines what is right and what is wrong? A computer reasoning can't...it can only decipher 0 or 1's or on/off's. To it a 0 can be just as right as a 1.This is why understanding consciousness sates is important. Why? because there are 2 off main types of consciousness. The first type relies totally upon autopilot decisions the second relies on SELF intervening decisions.The problem is that on the whole many people in society only rely an autopilot existence/reasonings because they know nothing else. They behave/think /reason like a machine.
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popeye1945
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2020 11:20 am
@maxdancona,
Moral relativism is indeed how things have developed to this point, but it is not an answer for any kind of future, that isn't chaos. A common morality must be based upon a common biology and must concerns itself with the life and well being of the individual.
All creations of humanity are biological extensions of that common biology, expressing the order and complexity of that said biology. The present institutions that claim to be the source of our humanity read morality are frauds, it is humanity that bestows morality up0n the institution and not the other way around. A global morality must be based upon our commonality NOT our differences.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2020 11:31 am
@popeye1945,
Interesting but can you prove it?
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2020 01:44 pm
@popeye1945,
Human beings have a common biology.

Human beings do not have a common morality.

That is the crux of my argument against moral absolutism.
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