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Europe bails on green energy

 
 
Mon 12 Aug, 2013 08:13 pm
http://www.thegwpf.org/benny-peiser-europe-pulls-plug-green-future/

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BENNY PEISER: EUROPE PULLS THE PLUG ON ITS GREEN FUTURE

Date: 09/08/13 Benny Peiser, The Australian
As country after country abandons, curtails or reneges on once-generous support for renewable energy, Europe is beginning to realise that its green energy strategy is dying on the vine. Green dreams are giving way to hard economic realities.

Slowly but gradually, Europe is awakening to a green energy crisis, an economic and political debacle that is entirely self-inflicted.

The mainstream media, which used to encourage the renewables push enthusiastically, is beginning to sober up too. With more and more cracks beginning to appear, many newspapers are returning to their proper role as the fourth estate, exposing the pitfalls of Europe’s green-energy gamble and opening their pages for thorough analysis and debate. Today, European media is full of news and commentary about the problems of an ill-conceived strategy that is becoming increasingly shaky and divisive.....


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Herald
 
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Mon 12 Aug, 2013 11:04 pm
@gungasnake,
RE: ... that its green energy strategy is dying on the vine
It is not only the green energy that is 'dying on the vine', but also the vines are dying on the vine trellis ... because of the 'harsh economic reality' (the acid rain, promoted by the fossil fuels' apologetics).
Why don't we look in the eyes this 'harsh economic reality', what it is all about:
- Casino economy driven by greed and stupidity - who can possibly handle these two ... or has ever handled successfully
- Decision making relying on ignorance about the actual situation - people like to live in ignorance. They hate being disturbed with future problems. They like to hear that sliding down the aqua rollba (to the swamp of the deadlock) is the 'best case scenario' for the time being.
We all know the proposals of B.G. to solve the CO2 crisis (comprising energy crisis & biological catastrophy). It is not by innovations & new technologies, it is not by developing fast growing plants (that will process the sulfuric acid dissolved in the CO2 of the air), it is not by deloping nanobacteria to process the CO2 in the chimneys of the TPPs ... to return the carbon back into the earth where it should be ... for our sake, it is not by industrial processing of CO2 into silicon carbide for example, to be used in the construction industry and machine engineering or something. It is by 'reducing the population of the Earth by 10-15% (1.2 BN) by means of vaccines and health services'. So, people, sleep well and don't bother. Sooner or leter you will get 'vaccinated' and everything will be hunky dory.
If B.G. does not succeed with the 'vaccination programs', the fast food restaurants will take care of it.
Kolyo
 
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Mon 12 Aug, 2013 11:28 pm
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

reducing the population of the Earth by 10-15% (1.2 BN) by means of vaccines and health services'. So, people, sleep well and don't bother. Sooner or leter you will get 'vaccinated' and everything will be hunky dory.


I think you're right, Herald. You had better avoid vaccinating yourself from now on. Don't let BG sterilize you with its sneaky flu shots.
Herald
 
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Tue 13 Aug, 2013 12:51 am
@Kolyo,
RE: ... avoid vaccinating yourself from now on. Don't let BG sterilize you with its sneaky flu shots
It is not that easy, for some vaccines are necessary, well not exactly the flu ones, which make no sense ... with or without the presentation of B.G.
You think it is only the vaccines: the exact words were 'and through medical services' ... like for example the pills for depression ... that may cause diabetes cancer and MS, etc. ... and for which there are medical reports stating that the difference between the super poweful drug at the four-digit price and the placebo pill (small amount of sugar) ... is within the statistical error!!
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gungasnake
 
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Tue 13 Aug, 2013 04:09 am
@Herald,
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We all know the proposals of B.G. to solve the CO2


Who or what is B.G. and what the **** are you talking about as to a "CO2 Crisis"??

CO2 is a basic part of the planet's body chemistry, absolutely necessary for plant life and emitted by all animals as they breathe. It is a fraction of human-produced "greenhouse gases" and the total human contribution to this planet's greenhouse gas content is less than one percent. The ONLY maningful greenhouse gas on this planet is water vapor.

The ONLY thing Europe has to fear as far as energy going into the future, is stupid people (like you) and greedy and vicious people like George Soros and Algor who lead stupid people (like you) astray.
gungasnake
 
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Tue 13 Aug, 2013 04:24 am
http://peacemoonbeam.typepad.com/bighairynews/

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Sen. Boxer Blames Wildfires On Global Warming

COSTA MESA, California (BHN) - Senator Barbara Boxer (RTRD-Ca) on Thursday blamed climate change for wildfires sweeping her state.

"We are seeing the tragic result of global warming in these fires," said an emotional Boxer. "As SUVs continue to remove oxygen from the air, the resulting heat is warming these trees past the danger point."

Speaking to Republicans in Congress who doubt the existence or extent of climate change, she added, “Open your eyes and see what’s going on - hot trees are catching fire all over the world. Get out of the fringe lane and into the carpool lane."

Orange County Congressman Dana Rohrabacher called Boxer's remarks "insanely retarded, even for her."


http://peacemoonbeam.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451af9f69e201901eb5e97a970b-500wi
Noted climatologist/atmospheric analyst Barbara Boxer explains climate change
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Herald
 
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Tue 13 Aug, 2013 10:21 am
@gungasnake,
RE: The ONLY thing Europe has to fear as far as energy going into the future, is stupid people (like you)
So and so you are smart enough to disseminate paid up fossil fuel propaganda, why don't you tell us:
1. How much is the average annual concentration of CO2 right now (2013) - is it just below 400 ppm ... or is it exceeding 400 ppm irretrievably?
2. What is the function of approximation of CO2 for the last 30 years, for example?
3. What is the percentage of dying trees because of acid rain right now, this year?
4. What is the rate of desertification of the Earth in the last 5 years?
5. What happened with the fodder maize in Slovenia this summer ... and how much is the agricultural loss only from this crop, only for this year, and only in this country?
6. What does an increase of the CO2 in the atmosphere (and continuous acidification of the ocean) mean? Does it mean that the industrial CO2 is 'only 1%' of the natural CO2 or does it mean that the planet cannot process the CO2 any more and the things are out of control: fast forward with one way ticket towards venerization of the planet?
7. At what point the equilibrium in the body metabolism will be disbalanced ... in humans, in animals, in vegetation ... in the plankton of the ocean?
8. What does acidification of the blood (in humans) mean, and how far it may go?
9. In your calculations (if you ever had any) when the biocatastrophy of the CO2 & the accompanying it energy crisis are to be expected? In 5 years, in 10 years, in 20 years - when?
10. How and when the fossil fuel apologetics intends to restore the climate of the Earth to its former glory ... or at least to fix the concentration of CO2 in the air, as it is so and so unable to reduce it?
11. How much is the cost of repairing of the eco-damages ... right now ... in 5 years ... in 20 years?
12. Do you really belive in the things you are talking, or you have some subtitles on the table, before you?
For further details see the CO2 data of UNEP.
Let the fossil fuel apologetics show us all that in 1 year they are able to reduce the concentration of CO2 by at least 2 ppm, and then I will become their greatest fan.
gungasnake
 
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Tue 13 Aug, 2013 11:52 am
@Herald,
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/image270f.gif

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Just how much of the "Greenhouse Effect" is caused by human activity?

It is about 0.28%, if water vapor is taken into account-- about 5.53%, if not.

This point is so crucial to the debate over global warming that how water vapor is or isn't factored into an analysis of Earth's greenhouse gases makes the difference between describing a significant human contribution to the greenhouse effect, or a negligible one.....




Herald
 
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Tue 13 Aug, 2013 12:23 pm
@gungasnake,
What do you understand of these data (that you are presenting to me) for I didn't understand anything. This is some relational analysis, and you don't know what is the basis of the presented correlation.
BTW you didn't answer to any of my questions, and yet I have some more:
- How much are the damaged (by acid rain and drought) tea crops in China in this year (... 30% or more?)
- How much are the damaged vegetable gardens ... and damaged beyond recovery orchard gardens in Northern China ... in this year only?
- By how much is increased the desert land in China ... in this year?
- What are the desperate measures of the goverment to stop the progressive desertification of the northern lands?
- What is your personal emergency plan to manage the acid rain damages?
The percentage of 396 ppm may seem insignificant (if you are baking a cake) but in microbiology this value for basic metobolic agent and its increase by 1% in the breathed air within less than an year ... is too significant to be neglected. It may mean acidification of the blood, it may mean Candida overgrowth, it may mean insulin resistance, it may mean damaging of the tissues beyond recovery ... it may mean also the 'fense of the cemetary' to the species concerned. In the extreme cases it may mean a biological catastrophy.
So when you look at the numbers maybe you should have some interpretation to them. What does 10^-6 speak to you? Nothing. It depends on what it is. If it is a concentration of fructose in the liver - it is nothing special, but if it is a concentration of a superneurotoxin (methane-mercury for example) in the CNS it may mean a lethal exit.
The numbers should be read very carefully.
gungasnake
 
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Tue 13 Aug, 2013 03:01 pm
@Herald,
Acid rain and CO2 are separate topics. Wanting to limit acid rain makes sense. Wanting to hobble Western economies by worrying about human CO2 emissions does not make sense.
Herald
 
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Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:45 pm
@gungasnake,
RE: Acid rain and CO2 are separate topics.
And how exactly?
Your claim is that the carbonic acid and the hydroxymethanoic acid are not acids at all, or maybe that CO2 does not have the property to dissolve sulfuric acid?
Yes, the acid rain nowadays is different from the acid rain of the 70s, when the main danger were SO2 and NO2 of the TPPs (and when the CO2 background was 330 ppm, and the average annual temperature of the Earth was lower by 2 deg C than it is today).
Nowadays the CO2 is over 400 ppm and driving along exponent, and the acid rain structure is different. The concentrations of SO2 and NO2 ... and of CH4 in the air that were considered as being safe in the 70s are not that safe any more.
RE: Wanting to hobble Western economies
... And how exactly the development of hybrid vehicles based on hydrogen and/or cleaner fuels, of TPPs operating on solar thermal, of NPPs based on Helium-3, research and development of acid-resistant plants and crops, develoment of new technologies to deactivate the CO2 in the air and to send it back under the ground where it actually should be ... is going to 'stumble the Western economies'?
BTW how much are the damages to the economy and to the agricultural crops and to the tourist industry ... and to the human health, caused by the acid rain & the CO2 bacchanalia ... right now ... and how much it will be in 5 years ... in 20 years?
What is 'hobbling the Western economies' is not the reasearch and development of green technologies, but rather the casino trading at the stock exchange that is continuously bailed out by interventions with toxic devivatives ... and presented as any fair trade on some market. Anyway.
gungasnake
 
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Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:46 pm
@Herald,
If you feel guilty about producing CO2, you need to stop breathing.
Herald
 
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Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:53 pm
@gungasnake,
We are not talking about our breathing. We are talking about TPPs providing meaningless pursuits to unprofitable coal mines, about vehicles driving with 250% excess fuel consumption, about homeless dogs that are not wild nature and never have been, about irresponsible fossil fuel fans that are hiding vital information from the public ... and about an economic model that is destroying the planet.
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