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An old poem that I want to know more about.

 
 
Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 05:49 pm
Hello everyone,
I hope someone can help me. I found some old letters, etc. written by my great grandfather back in 1844. One of the letters had a poem written to his wife. I don't think the poem was original as I remember seeing two of the lines written in a book sometime ago. I do not remember which book I happened to be reading at the time. Here is the poem.

A heart I have and that is true
And this I do present to you
If yours be true and is not gone
Let our two hearts be twined as one
My mind is fixt and will not range
On no other girls it ?? (page torn)
My mind will never be at ease
Til our two hearts is twined as these?.

I appreciate any help you can suggest or give to me. Thank you in advance.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 05:53 pm
Well, for starters, the line:

Til our two hearts is twined as these

seems to suggest the author might have been a hillbilly.


(Psssst, Google returned zero hits on the first line . . . can't be a very well-known work, or, at any event, it is unlikely to be--good luck.)
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judegirl44
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 05:59 pm
Setanta wrote:
Well, for starters, the line:

Til our two hearts is twined as these

seems to suggest the author might have been a hillbilly.


(Psssst, Google returned zero hits on the first line . . . can't be a very well-known work, or, at any event, it is unlikely to be--good luck.)


Thank you for your input.
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judegirl44
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 06:00 pm
Thank you for your input.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 06:02 pm
You're welcome. If you provided more information, such as the book in which you found it, that would help. The more information one has to work with, the easier it is to find on-line, and i am perfectly willing to see if i can help.
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judegirl44
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 06:06 pm
The sad thing is that I don't remember the title of the book that I was reading. I appreciate your willingness to help though. Any other suggestions that I could try? Thank you. j
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 06:13 pm
The best advice i can offer (and perhaps someone more clever will stop by to offer better advice), is to try different search engines, such as Google. If you believe that the first line of the poem as you have quoted it is correct, when visiting the search engine, type that line within quotes, thus:

"A heart I have and that is true"

in order for the search to be conducted to find exactly those lines.

I'll see if i can give you an example from "Ask Jeeves." Be rat back . . .
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judegirl44
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 06:16 pm
Ok, thanks.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 06:17 pm
Go look at this page:


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and you will see that i have copied the first line into the search window closed with quotation remarks. If that is the correct first line of the poem, that's about the best way i know of finding it. Which is not to say that there are not many people here better at searching the web than i.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 06:18 pm
I am not being rude to you in asking this, because, truly, i could not know--do you have any experience in using search engines to find things on-line?
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judegirl44
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 06:22 pm
You are not rude to ask the question I am limited as to using search engines. I have done some searching but as I said, I don't know too much about it. I appreicate your help though and thank you very much. I am almost at the conclusion that the poem must have been original. As to the two lines that were the same in a book maybe that was just a fluke.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 07:59 pm
When you search, a search engine will look for any instances of the words you've typed. So if you want to find something specific, such as the first line of a poem, typing it within quote marks "tells" the search engine to look only for those words in that order.

Search engines generally ignore common words such as articles (the, a, an), but, conjunctions can be used, such as "but not" . . . each search engine page should have pages which explain these things (at the "Ask Jeeves" page i linked above, there is a line which reads: "Advanced Options" which will take you such a page when you click on it), although my experience is that the explanations are often not useful for those who are not familiar to some extent with how the searches work. Many people would give you complex explanations, and speak of, for example, boulean searches, but that is not helpful to one who is just learning.

So, for example, you might want to find out about King Louis XIV of France, but you only want to find out about his magnificent palace at Versailles. If you go to a search engine and type: Louis XIV+Versailles, you should get results which are mostly only about the King and his palace (and the life there), rather than the literally millions of hits you'd have to wade through if you only type in Louis XIV (he was King of France from 1643 to 1715, during very important times, so a search engine would find "Louis XIV" all over the place).

If you need to find something again, this is a good place for you to come to get help. This is also a good place to meet people and make friends. I hope you'll stay to look around, and maybe meet folks you'll like
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judegirl44
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 08:21 pm
Thank you for the detailed description of a search. I had forgotten about using the '+' to narrow down results. This site is indeed a good and informative site with friendly, helpful people. Actually I found this place by a search as I had no idea where to look. I will definitely come back and take time to check out the entire site. Again, thank you for your help.
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