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Reply Tue 16 Apr, 2013 07:52 am
Very interesting theory Talbot and Thornhill are proposing and although I'm not cosmologist the Ideas they put forward seem to have some merit, can't seem to find anything on the net debunking these guys ideas, has anyone got any thoughts?
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 16 Apr, 2013 08:04 am
@Hunter84,
Their theories have more inconsistencies and conflicts with actual evidence than do the current theories (Big Bang). Until those flaws are resolved their theories are inviable.
Hunter84
 
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Reply Tue 16 Apr, 2013 08:26 am
@rosborne979,
I understand that the big bang theory is mainstream due to it's ability to cover a wider range of topics, but it also has flaws some of which can't be explained through the big bang model but predicted under the electric model.. Given that this theory is relatively new in development would it be counter productive for both models to collaborate to find out why they both have answers to different problems or to do what seems to be happening and continue persisting with the aspects of the standard model that seem to work fine.. It doesn't make much sense to me to persist with theory just because it answers a few more questions than another theory, the fact that a rival theory can explain something that the big bang model can't should be alarming and be given a lot more attention.. I have the feeling focused on getting the puzzle finished before we've even worked out if we have all the pieces, and like kids with a puzzle they get to the end and start to jam pieces where they don''t fit.
Ragman
 
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Reply Tue 16 Apr, 2013 08:32 am
@Hunter84,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Talbott

"The planetary "polar configuration" envisioned by Talbott has been subject to criticism, for example:
Roger Ashton concluded it was contradicted by constraints imposed by celestial mechanics, ecological continuity and the survival of flora and fauna which would not have endured the conditions implied by the model.
Lynn Rose found the model deficient on the grounds of "nomenclature, stability, myth, and transference".
"Peter James explained that the model made no attempt to account for several well-attested, global environmental crises in the Holocene while the "one major event within the memory of the human race - the break-up of proto-Saturn . . . was apparently so gentle that it is not conspicuous enough in the archaeological or geological records to yet be confidently identified."


I concur with what Rosborne and you wrote.

What does this have to do with an electric universe (title)?
rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 16 Apr, 2013 08:46 am
@Hunter84,
The Big Bang theory is EXTREMELY accurate, and I say that with emphasis because it deserves it. No theory will ever be perfect in every detail but at the moment, the BB theory is be most accurate we've got by a long shot.

The Plasma/Electric theory is not new, it's been kicking around for decades now and it has never been on par with the BB for accurately matching evidence.

What particular aspects of the BB theory do you feel are weakest, and what particular aspects of the other theory do you feel are most relevant?

This challenge in particular has to be dealt with:

Wiki wrote:
In 1995 Eric Lerner published the only proposal based on plasma cosmology to explain the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMB) since the Cosmic Background Explorer (COBE) results were announced in 1992.[43] He argues that his model can explain both the fidelity of the CMB spectrum to that of a black body and the low level of anisotropies found. The sensitivity and resolution of the measurement of the CMB anisotropies was greatly advanced by WMAP. The fact that the CMB is so isotropic, in line with the predictions of the Big Bang model, was subsequently heralded as a major confirmation of the Big Bang model to the detriment of alternatives.[44] These measurements show the acoustic peaks in the early universe are fit with high accuracy by the predictions of the Big Bang model. There has never been an attempt to explain the detailed spectrum of the anisotropies within the framework of plasma cosmology.
mark noble
 
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Reply Tue 16 Apr, 2013 09:50 am
FFS!
There is a "BB' at every stage of evolvatory-progression, you frikkin neanderthals!
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Tue 16 Apr, 2013 02:07 pm
@rosborne979,
Quote:
the BB theory is be most accurate we've got by a long shot.
Somewhat OT Ros but by chance would you happen to know how the Big Crunch is doing
Hunter84
 
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Reply Tue 16 Apr, 2013 11:44 pm
@Ragman,
That alone has nothing to do with the Electric universe
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 17 Apr, 2013 08:10 am
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:

Quote:
the BB theory is be most accurate we've got by a long shot.
Somewhat OT Ros but by chance would you happen to know how the Big Crunch is doing
At the moment, the probability of a Big Crunch seems unlikely given that Dark Energy is accelerating the expansion of the Universe.
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