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Chemistry quiz - What's the correct chemical NAME for water?

 
 
farmerman
 
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Fri 26 Mar, 2004 07:29 am
as a recovering crystal chemist, I dont remember anyone evr calling it anything other than water, the " (di)hydronium hydroxide" would be the most ionically correct cause it uses the correct names.

As far as the combinations , there are oxygen isotopes from 12O to 25O, but , as you can see, their half lives and abundance would make a verys short lived drink

http://ie.lbl.gov/education/parent/o_iso.htm

damn, one of these browser conflicts. It wont open through 2k on my browser. Its the Lawrence Berkely site. its a good listing of isotopes in general
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g day
 
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Fri 26 Mar, 2004 09:46 am
Thanks guys - Hey I call it water too in everyday use, but I figured it must have a correct chmical name, interesting how hard it can be to figure it out for one of the world's most abundant, simplest substances. Surprised they never taught this at school - maybe its so elementary everyone overlooks it!
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farmerman
 
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Fri 26 Mar, 2004 10:16 am
like you said about saltpeter. There are a gazillion compounds that have industrial names that chemistshave adopted .
I mine Ferrous Titanium d ioxide-we call it "IL" or rooty" short for ilmenite or rutile. We convert that to "Copperas" which is Iron Titanium sulfate . then we extract pure titanium dioxide from the copperas and we call that "Ti" and" its used to make paint white.
when I was a crystal chemist we used a lot of Hydroflouric acid , Calls it "HF", so its mostly an industry of nicknames and acronyms (especially in the organic chem business) Otherwise , withh some of the organics, youd be there all dy pronouncing one molecule
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patiodog
 
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Fri 26 Mar, 2004 12:41 pm
Hmmm -- ain't a hydronium ion a protonated water molecule, not a proton?
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farmerman
 
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Fri 26 Mar, 2004 12:46 pm
Ive always heard it said that way whenever someone got goin. Ive always thought that H+ was the hydronium ion

Aint married to it , but Im stickin with water
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patiodog
 
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Fri 26 Mar, 2004 12:46 pm
And I'm stickin' with ethanol, thank you. Water corrodes.
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fredzfrog
 
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Sat 27 Mar, 2004 01:41 am
hi g_day...
/me waves.

could it also be refered to as dihydrogen monooxide?

i was reading a artical in today's age (australian newspaper www.theage.com.au) that mentioned a town in california were going to take steps to protect the public from a substance that is lethal if inhaled and causes severe burns in it's gaseous state.

i can send you the artical if u want... just pm me at those other forums... u know the one... Razz

edit: grammer
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Miller
 
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Sat 27 Mar, 2004 01:48 am
satt_focusable wrote:
It is oxidized hydrogen.


Very true! Cool
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Miller
 
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Sat 27 Mar, 2004 01:59 am
willow_tl wrote:
Dihydrogen Monooxide


Interesting to note, there's a chemical called dihydrogen monoxide and it's not water. You can find it via a Google search.

Also, it's not dihydrogen oxide. http://www.midcoast.com/~pilkguns/bbs/messages/47997.html
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Wilso
 
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Sat 27 Mar, 2004 03:55 am
No, it's 'water'.
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Thok
 
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Sat 3 Apr, 2004 01:34 am
satt_focusable wrote:
It is oxidized hydrogen.


Yes also H2O or simply: water. Smile
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caprice
 
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Sat 3 Apr, 2004 02:08 am
patiodog wrote:
How 'bout hydrohydroxic acid?


I wouldn't think so....how can something with a neutral pH be an acid?
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Thok
 
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Sat 3 Apr, 2004 02:14 am
water is not a acid.
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neil
 
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Sat 3 Apr, 2004 06:49 am
The usual chemical names can sometimes describe more than one compound as the bonds can be in two or more configurations resulting in different properties. Reasonably new names are created when conflicts occur. Apparently water rarely creates conflicts when it is any mixture of isotopes of hydrogen and oxygen. but sugar or salt do, as there are several kinds of sugar (dextrose, lactose, glucose) and many kinds of salt ie potassium nitrate, calcium chloride, magnesium sulphate. Neil
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Wilso
 
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Sat 3 Apr, 2004 07:28 am
Thok wrote:
water is not a acid.


Actually, water is amphiprotic-it can act as both a proton donor or a proton acceptor. Which means it can be both an acid and a base!
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patiodog
 
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Sat 3 Apr, 2004 02:03 pm
Sure enough. And it will lower the pH of a basic solution...
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g day
 
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Mon 5 Apr, 2004 05:50 pm
Well I posted the same question on my main forum, and recieced the following consensus

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=1&c=1&t=34602&p=20

DiHydrogen Monoxide << Pretty acceptable to me
Di-hydrous Oxide << doesn't sound right to me
DiHydrogen Oxide << too ambiguous, could be H2O2
Di-hydrogen Oxygen << doesn't sound right to me
Oxidized Hydrogen << Technically, a proton, deuteron or Tritium nucleus
Oxidized Hydronium << What's that, H3O(2+ or up)
Oxidized Di-hydronium << ?? H6O2(4+ or higher)
Hydrogen Oxide << could be H2O2, OH- etc
Hydrogen Hydroxide << Pretty good to me, shows how it dissociates...
Hydrohydroxic acid << Jury is still out here...
Di-hydronium Hydroxide << H7O3(+)... or H8O4
Di-hydronium Monooxide << H6O3
Di-hydronium Oxygen << doesn't sound right
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Wilso
 
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Mon 5 Apr, 2004 05:58 pm
And they're all wrong. It's water.
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g day
 
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Tue 6 Apr, 2004 07:53 am
Wilso - you said "Actually, water is amphiprotic-it can act as both a proton donor or a proton acceptor. Which means it can be both an acid and a base!"

Which means it can recieve a system name as a base or alkali:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water

The systematic acid name of water is hydroxic acid or hydroxilic acid, although these terms are rarely used.

Likewise, the systematic alkali name of water is hydrogen hydroxide -- it should be noted that water is neither an acid nor an alkali

* * *

Oh and a chemist at another site just added two more names

Hydronol
Dihydrogen ether

Seem like naming water is a can of worms!
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Greenday
 
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Wed 7 Apr, 2004 06:45 am
i don't really know...
when I asked the teacher, he told me but I don't really remember.

i guess that it is oxytic acid although I know it's wrong since I asked my teacher...
it could also be hydrogen oxide but since it has the H in front I think it has to be an acid.

it couldn't be hydrochloric acid because it would be written like this: H(OH)
H=acid
OH=base
but it's not neutralization...

so, i'll just stick to
  • oxytic acid
  • hydrogen oxide
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