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Treasonous acts US presidents - Nixon

 
 
JTT
 
Reply Sun 17 Mar, 2013 03:24 pm
15 March 2013 Last updated at 21:09 ET

The Lyndon Johnson tapes: Richard Nixon's 'treason'
By David Taylor


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They also shed light on a scandal that, if it had been known at the time, would have sunk the candidacy of Republican presidential nominee, Richard Nixon.

By the time of the election in November 1968, LBJ had evidence Nixon had sabotaged the Vietnam war peace talks - or, as he put it, that Nixon was guilty of treason and had "blood on his hands".

The BBC's former Washington correspondent Charles Wheeler learned of this in 1994 and conducted a series of interviews with key Johnson staff, such as defence secretary Clark Clifford, and national security adviser Walt Rostow.

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We now know...

After the Viet Cong's Tet offensive, White House doves persuaded Johnson to end the war
Johnson loathed Senator Bobby Kennedy but the tapes show he was genuinely devastated by his assassination
He feared vice-president Hubert Humphrey would go soft on Vietnam if elected president
The BBC's Charles Wheeler would have been under FBI surveillance when he met administration officials in 1968
In 1971 Nixon made huge efforts to find a file containing everything Johnson knew in 1968 about Nixon's skulduggery
But by the time the tapes were declassified in 2008 all the main protagonists had died, including Wheeler.

Now, for the first time, the whole story can be told.

It begins in the summer of 1968. Nixon feared a breakthrough at the Paris Peace talks designed to find a negotiated settlement to the Vietnam war, and he knew this would derail his campaign.

He therefore set up a clandestine back-channel involving Anna Chennault, a senior campaign adviser.

At a July meeting in Nixon's New York apartment, the South Vietnamese ambassador was told Chennault represented Nixon and spoke for the campaign. If any message needed to be passed to the South Vietnamese president, Nguyen Van Thieu, it would come via Chennault.

In late October 1968 there were major concessions from Hanoi which promised to allow meaningful talks to get underway in Paris - concessions that would justify Johnson calling for a complete bombing halt of North Vietnam. This was exactly what Nixon feared.


The Paris peace talks may have ended years earlier, if it had not been for Nixon's subterfuge
Chennault was despatched to the South Vietnamese embassy with a clear message: the South Vietnamese government should withdraw from the talks, refuse to deal with Johnson, and if Nixon was elected, they would get a much better deal.

So on the eve of his planned announcement of a halt to the bombing, Johnson learned the South Vietnamese were pulling out.

He was also told why. The FBI had bugged the ambassador's phone and a transcripts of Anna Chennault's calls were sent to the White House. In one conversation she tells the ambassador to "just hang on through election".

Johnson was told by Defence Secretary Clifford that the interference was illegal and threatened the chance for peace.


Nixon went on to become president and eventually signed a Vietnam peace deal in 1973
In a series of remarkable White House recordings we can hear Johnson's reaction to the news.

In one call to Senator Richard Russell he says: "We have found that our friend, the Republican nominee, our California friend, has been playing on the outskirts with our enemies and our friends both, he has been doing it through rather subterranean sources. Mrs Chennault is warning the South Vietnamese not to get pulled into this Johnson move."

He orders the Nixon campaign to be placed under FBI surveillance and demands to know if Nixon is personally involved.

When he became convinced it was being orchestrated by the Republican candidate, the president called Senator Everett Dirksen, the Republican leader in the Senate to get a message to Nixon.

The president knew what was going on, Nixon should back off and the subterfuge amounted to treason.


Publicly Nixon was suggesting he had no idea why the South Vietnamese withdrew from the talks. He even offered to travel to Saigon to get them back to the negotiating table.

Johnson felt it was the ultimate expression of political hypocrisy but in calls recorded with Clifford they express the fear that going public would require revealing the FBI were bugging the ambassador's phone and the National Security Agency (NSA) was intercepting his communications with Saigon.

So they decided to say nothing.

The president did let Humphrey know and gave him enough information to sink his opponent. But by then, a few days from the election, Humphrey had been told he had closed the gap with Nixon and would win the presidency. So Humphrey decided it would be too disruptive to the country to accuse the Republicans of treason, if the Democrats were going to win anyway.

Nixon ended his campaign by suggesting the administration war policy was in shambles. They couldn't even get the South Vietnamese to the negotiating table.

He won by less than 1% of the popular vote.

Once in office he escalated the war into Laos and Cambodia, with the loss of an additional 22,000 American lives, before finally settling for a peace agreement in 1973 that was within grasp in 1968.

The White House tapes, combined with Wheeler's interviews with key White House personnel, provide an unprecedented insight into how Johnson handled a series of crises that rocked his presidency. Sadly, we will never have that sort of insight again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21768668



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Kolyo
 
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Reply Sun 17 Mar, 2013 04:09 pm
Egads! You really have slipped. You go to a majority liberal site like this one and try to convince us to hate people like Nixon, Kissinger, Dubya, and Cheney?

Prove to us that ever U.S. president since and include FDR was a war criminal. Maybe then I'll be half-impressed. Rolling Eyes
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 17 Mar, 2013 04:18 pm
@Kolyo,
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You go to a majority liberal site like this one


Excuse me?? Did you even read it? LBJ tapes of Nixon.

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and try to convince us to hate people like Nixon, Kissinger, Dubya, and Cheney?


I'm not asking anyone to hate them. Stop trying to turn this into me, Kolyo. It's important to everyone's understanding that the US has engaged in myriad war crimes, crimes against humanity, vicious vicious acts of terrorism for well over a century.
Kolyo
 
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Reply Sun 17 Mar, 2013 04:26 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:


Excuse me?? Did you even read it? LBJ tapes of Nixon.



No I didn't. The point I was trying to make in my previous post was that "Nixon was a traitor" is a dog-bites-man headline at this point.

So ... take on a CHALLENGE why don't you? How about telling us about someone like President Harrison? What did he do that should make us all HATE AMERICA? I'm all ears...
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 17 Mar, 2013 04:35 pm
@Kolyo,
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No I didn't.


Rolling Eyes

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The point I was trying to make in my previous post was that "Nixon was a traitor" is a dog-bites-man headline at this point.


Are you of the opinion that it's best to hide these crimes of elected government officials? That's very totalitarian of you, Kolyo.

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So ... take on a CHALLENGE why don't you? How about telling us about someone like President Harrison? What did he do that should make us all HATE AMERICA? I'm all ears...


Obviously you not all ears, you don't even seem to have two, or the upstairs capacity to process. I'm suggesting that you love your country, that you not allow these myriad war crimes, crimes against humanity, vicious terrorist actions [mwc,cah,vta] to continue.

Isn't that what America is supposed to be all about?

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How about telling us about someone like President Harrison?


He tippeed the canoe. Smile
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 20 Mar, 2013 03:45 pm
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