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Pope Benedict RESIGNS as Head of Catholic Church (2013)

 
 
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:09 am
@Setanta,
Why is everyone so down on indulgences. I think they are a great idea. If I want to screw the neighbor's wife without the risk of hell... how is that not a good thing?
George
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:10 am
@wandeljw,
I will take him at his word. He's getting old and frail and he knows it.
He watched as John Paul II went down that road, witnessed it up close.
I bet he said to himself "I don't ever want that to be me."
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:12 am
@maxdancona,
The neighbor might dissent from your judgment there . . .
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:18 am
@maxdancona,
Quote:
Re: Setanta (Post 5249956)
Why is everyone so down on indulgences. I think they are a great idea. If I want to screw the neighbor's wife without the risk of hell... how is that not a good thing?


Actually, "indulgences" deals more with time in Purgatory...rather than with whether one goes to Heaven or Hell.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:19 am
@Frank Apisa,
Will my neighbor's wife be in purgatory too?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:20 am
@maxdancona,
I hope so for your sake.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:23 am
@wandeljw,
wandeljw wrote:
The last pope to resign did so because of a schism.
He actually (legally) didn't resign.
The last (and first and until today the only) Pope to resign was Coelestin V (Pietro del Murrone).
One of the two decrees he had ordered was the right of any pope to abdicate the papacy, a right that he himself exercised at the end of five months and eight days at Naples on 13 December 1294. He retired mainly, because his Latin wasn't good enough as well as he didn't have a great knowledge about the canon law.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:25 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Quote:
Re: wandeljw (Post 5249947)
wandeljw wrote:
The last pope to resign did so because of a schism.

He actually (legally) didn't resign.
The last (and first and until today the only) Pope to resign was Coelestin V (Pietro del Murrone).
One of the two decrees he had ordered was the right of any pope to abdicate the papacy, a right that he himself exercised at the end of five months and eight days at Naples on 13 December 1294. He retired mainly, because his Latin wasn't good enough as well as he didn't have a great knowledge about the canon law.


Are you sure of this, Walter?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:27 am
http://961wodz.com/which-other-popes-have-resigned-or-stepped-down-pope-benedict-xvi-will-step-down-on-february-28th/
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:27 am
I bet if we let the old boy burn a few Protestants, that would perk him up!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:28 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Are you sure of this, Walter?
Yes, at least according to all what I know about (church) history and canon law.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:29 am
Perhaps his resignation has more to do with the fact that the internet and modern media are making his and other high-ranking members of the Catholic Church previous evil actions impossible to hide any longer.

http://www.sfgate.com/tv/article/Mea-Maxima-Culpa-review-Devastating-4244455.php

Cycloptichorn
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:33 am
@Frank Apisa,
That list names those Popes as well who had "to leave office" due to canon law.

Benedict is the second Pope to resign, "on his own wish".
aspvenom
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:38 am
I don't blame him, at least he understands that in our society, the ones who are the most important are the least functional.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:43 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5249998)
That list names those Popes as well who had "to leave office" due to canon law.

Benedict is the second Pope to resign, "on his own wish".


I think they resigned, Walter. Obviously you think differently.

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parados
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:55 am
Just the other day Public Radio did a story about Hindu reincarnated Lamas that are giving up monkhood to live in the modern world, tempted by many things including pretty women.

I wonder if the Pope has his eyes set on a certain young lady.
aspvenom
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 11:01 am
@parados,
You mean on a certain young boy.

Sorry in advance if I offended any Catholics. Just a joke.
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engineer
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 12:03 pm
Intersting quote from an NPR interview.

Quote:
Rev. Martin thinks Benedict's stepping down might be partly an attempt to influence his successor.
As the first Pope in 600 years to resign the post and therefore witness the selection of his successor, it would be "seen as a slight" to appoint someone who wasn't "completely in line with Benedict's world view," Martin says.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 03:58 pm
@oralloy,
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Pope Benedict RESIGNS as Head of Catholic Church

I have to say that my respect for Ratzinger has grown greatly for being the first pope in 600 years to resign voluntarily. I have always admired Cincinnatus and George Washington for walking away from positions of power like that. Now Ratzinger has done it, too. I'm impressed.
Hulk
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 06:47 pm
@Thomas,
What qualities do you assume in such persons which leads you to respect such people?
 

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