Atheist vs believer research

I think we are in agreement on that, Setanta. The attempt by igm to get me to agree earlier was about as ham-fisted an attempt to entrap as I've ever seen. That is why I responded as I did.

I am amazed that he still tried to make it work after I showed that I knew what he was up to.

But...

He exudes the desperation of the true believer . . .

Look... is that Set & Frank?

Well, igm, I do not think I am a bully here...frankly, because I do not think I am smart enough to do much bullying.

But I do not give up easily...and I will argue a point when it is still being contended.

If at any point I have descended to bullying...or even to rudeness beyond reason...I apologize.

I will readily acknowledge that Buddhist suggestions that they are "enlightened" or "more enlightened" by virtue of their "beliefs" (and that, for the most part is what Buddhism mostly is)...annoys me, so I tend to be especially tenacious when dealing with them.

What say we get back to the discussion at hand.

You seem to think the Buddha and you KNOW what the REALITY is...what can be excluded from REALITY.

I do not.

And I strongly suspect you guys do not either.

I appreciate you sharing your guesses about REALITY...and sharing the Buddha's guesses, but where do we go from there?

So, igm, does that mean you are not going to discuss further, but instead are going to try to bully me into submission?

Desperation . . . people come here to debate, if you can't handle that, then don't whine about it and try to make others our to be bad people because they won't swallow you bullshit.