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Winter Solstice

 
 
Reply Sun 16 Dec, 2012 09:43 am
Even though we have not yet reached the winter solstice, the time of sun set has been getting later and later for the past week or so. How can this be?
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Ragman
 
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Reply Sun 16 Dec, 2012 10:20 am
@pookie44,
The time of sunrise /sunset is dependent on where you are on the globe.

Also you need to figure out the length of the actual day ... regardless of the time for the sunrise. What is the time of sunlight duration from sunrise to sunset?
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 16 Dec, 2012 10:29 am
@Ragman,
Heres a pretty concise explanation from last years Washington Post on the day before the solstice. (You should then look up the word analemma (its the path of the sun that can be measured in the sky at solar noon or as a shadow on solar noon. I hadda do this as a science experiment back in Catholic Grade SChool so its not out of reach for anyone here.


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Why do the earliest sunset and latest sunrise not fall on the solstice?

Careful sun observers are quick to note that the earliest sunset and latest sunrise of the year do not coincide with the winter solstice. Washington, D.C. saw its earliest sunset at 4:46 p.m. from December 2 through December 13, which means the sun has already been setting a few minutes later for the past week. Yet the sun continues to rise later, with the latest sunrise occurring at 7:27 a.m. from December 31-January 10.

What causes this discrepancy? To begin, it helps to understand the two “competing” forces that determine local sunrise and sunset times: 1) Changes in the sun’s declination, or height above the horizon throughout the year, and 2) The changing time of solar noon.

Solar noon occurs when the sun reaches its maximum height in the sky on any given day. At any location on Earth, the time of noon slowly oscillates back and forth by several minutes throughout the year (in other words, a sundial would not consistently show noon occurring at the same time as your wristwatch). These shifts are due to the earth’s elliptical (non-circular) orbit and axial tilt, and are summed up in a complex relationship called the equation of time (for simplicity, let’s call it the “solar noon effect”).

The reason the earliest sunset occurs before the winter solstice has to do with the later shift in solar noon “outweighing” the effect of the sun’s decreasing height and length of time above the horizon. For example, in D.C. solar noon is at 11:57 a.m. on December 1, but drifts 14 minutes later – to 12:11 p.m. – by December 31. This forward shift means that it takes a few seconds more than 24 hours for the sun to complete a full circle between its maximum noontime height from one day to the next. Meanwhile, as we approach the solstice, the sun’s declination is no longer changing as rapidly, which causes the days to shorten at a slower pace.
Ragman
 
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Reply Sun 16 Dec, 2012 10:55 am
@farmerman,
So I was off base again on the first part? How shocking? Shocked

I realize that the length of the day is a different issue.
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