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Jonestown unexplainable tragedy

 
 
Reply Sun 18 Nov, 2012 12:51 pm
On this day in 1978, Peoples Temple founder Jim Jones leads hundreds of his followers in a mass murder-suicide at their agricultural commune in a remote part of the South American nation of Guyana. Many of Jones’ followers willingly ingested a poison-laced punch while others were forced to do so at gunpoint.

The final death toll at Jonestown that day was 909; a third of those were children.

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Hard to believe there were so many desperate, susceptible believers out there.

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dalehileman
 
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Reply Sun 18 Nov, 2012 12:59 pm
@Rickoshay75,
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Hard to believe there were so many desperate, susceptible believers out there.
Well put Rick, exactly my reaction, inexplicable
Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2012 03:27 pm
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:

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Hard to believe there were so many desperate, susceptible believers out there.
Well put Rick, exactly my reaction, inexplicable


Brainwashing goes on everyday in every way, but mostly in politics and religion. What percentage of the population do you think is susceptible to brainwashing?
dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2012 06:01 pm
@Rickoshay75,
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What percentage of the population do you think is susceptible to brainwashing?
I'd guess 98%
Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2012 02:24 pm
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:

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What percentage of the population do you think is susceptible to brainwashing?
I'd guess 98%


You read my mind... Present parties excluded, of course. We'd probably be called pessimistic rebels by most, and if they found out about us, we'd probably be ostracized, or drawn and quartered.

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Fate leads him who follows it, drags him who resist. Plutarch


dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2012 07:15 pm
@Rickoshay75,
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You read my mind... Present parties excluded, of course.
Of course

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….. we'd probably be ostracized, or drawn and quartered.
If your experience parallels mine, at a2k like so many other such, we have been and will be
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Fate leads him who follows it, drags him who resist. Plutarch

Then there's not much hope for us, is there
Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2012 11:44 am
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:

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You read my mind... Present parties excluded, of course.
Of course

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….. we'd probably be ostracized, or drawn and quartered.
If your experience parallels mine, at a2k like so many other such, we have been and will be
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Fate leads him who follows it, drags him who resist. Plutarch

Then there's not much hope for us, is there


My position is and will always be... Wait and see
dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2012 02:00 pm
@Rickoshay75,
Well Rick it's been several hours now……..
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chai2
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2012 02:13 pm
@Rickoshay75,
Rickoshay75 wrote:


You read my mind... Present parties excluded, of course. We'd probably be called pessimistic rebels by most, and if they found out about us, we'd probably be ostracized, or drawn and quartered.




Yes, us 98 other are now hot on the trail of you and dalehileman.

The Grand High Macaroon has told us you are from the dark side, so we know it is true.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2012 02:16 pm
@chai2,
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you are from the dark side
Rick and I share the existential

http://able2know.org/topic/202342-1
chai2
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2012 02:22 pm
@dalehileman,
That's not what I was addressing.

I'm going to have my thanksgiving dinner now, so you and rick can discuss further between yourselves how you and he are the only one's amongst a 100 people that can clearly see when someone is handing you a line.
Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2012 02:53 pm
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:

That's not what I was addressing.

I'm going to have my thanksgiving dinner now, so you and rick can discuss further between yourselves how you and he are the only one's amongst a 100 people that can clearly see when someone is handing you a line.


Why not just a plain dinner. Why should you be thankful for fickle fate, events that have no rhyme nor reason?
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2012 03:04 pm
@chai2,
Thank you Chai for your interest but your postings could benefit from a bit of detail; you must understand not everyone will spend five minutes attempting to analyze each posting as how it relates to others in the same thread

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That's not what I was addressing.
Forgive an old fella chai but what's not

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I'm going to have my thanksgiving dinner now,
bon appetit

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….the only one's amongst a 100 people
Again my apologies but some of us are very literal: Does that "one's" suggest "ones," as in ones that can see, "one's," in which case we suspect a typo where an inadvertent keystroke has deleted the following noun; "one that's," inferring that you suspect Rick and I are actually the same person using two different usernames; or "one is" in which the intervening word "that" was inadvertently omitted

Forgive, Chai, couldn't resist

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that can clearly see when someone is handing you a line.
Our apologies again Chai, but you seem to be the only other contributor so if is it you who is handing us the line how are you doing it; or are you referring to an entirely different thread in which case could you kindly provide a link so we can see how we're being deceived

But once more thank you kindly for your intense interest in our ruminations

http://able2know.org/topic/202350-1
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chai2
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2012 07:00 pm
@Rickoshay75,
Rickoshay75 wrote:

dalehileman wrote:

Quote:
What percentage of the population do you think is susceptible to brainwashing?
I'd guess 98%


You read my mind... Present parties excluded, of course. We'd probably be called pessimistic rebels by most, and if they found out about us, we'd probably be ostracized, or drawn and quartered.

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Fate leads him who follows it, drags him who resist. Plutarch





maybe this makes it clearer....you know, what you were saying.
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 28 Nov, 2012 03:49 pm
Jonestown and The Son of Sam were my first real introductions to the horrors of the world, i started high school in the fall of '76, i can remember the news shots of the helicopters leaving Vietnam the year before, but in Canada it was more or less another news story

the Son of Sam murders started in the summer of '76 but it was the film footage in '78 of the shootings at the airport and the subsequent massacre in the jungle that really hit home how shitty humans could be to each other

3 of my fave bands used clips from Jim Jones speeches as part of their tunes



the third song is a rare tune from a one shot ep by a band called Magic Dragon, the song is called (White Monkey) Under The Volcano


djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 28 Nov, 2012 03:56 pm
@djjd62,
for some reason the second video isn't showing up for me, here it is

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Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Mon 3 Dec, 2012 12:27 pm
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:

Rickoshay75 wrote:

dalehileman wrote:

Quote:
What percentage of the population do you think is susceptible to brainwashing?
I'd guess 98%


You read my mind... Present parties excluded, of course. We'd probably be called pessimistic rebels by most, and if they found out about us, we'd probably be ostracized, or drawn and quartered.

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Fate leads him who follows it, drags him who resist. Plutarch





maybe this makes it clearer....you know, what you were saying.


If not, try this one...

Consciousness (awareness) – is an idling motor waiting for someone or something to put it in gear – stimulate you to do or say something.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 3 Dec, 2012 12:53 pm
@Rickoshay75,
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an idling motor waiting
Rick well put
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