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Missouri Pastor’s Fiery Speech Against Equal Rights for Homosexuals *

 
 
Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2012 07:45 pm
The video there is a brief 2 minutes long. A little bit of patience will be rewarding.
http://gawker.com/5953357/missouri-pastors-fiery-speech-against-equal-rights-for-homosexuals-has-stunning-twist-ending
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2012 07:54 pm
EXcellent. But will it have any effect?
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2012 07:59 pm
@edgarblythe,
Trying to fight the inevitable cynicism. On the local level it might do good. On the state level or higher? Probably will not effect at all.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 21 Oct, 2012 09:31 am
@tsarstepan,
I was ready to bail until he started to read the "notes from another century"
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jcboy
 
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Reply Sun 21 Oct, 2012 09:46 am
The biblical values are feeding and caring for others; not wasting their flocks money that takes away the rights of people.

If these pastors and churches can’t stay out of politics tax the bastards!
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 21 Oct, 2012 09:51 am
@jcboy,
Totally unrelated but, It always "Wundered me" How the "RELIGIOUS RIGHT" got its self- proclaimed title widely accepted.

1.They are not religious at all, they DONT stand for anything that their Saviour did stand for for. eg helping the poor and downtrodden.

2They seem to absolve themselves of collective duty (say , GOVERNMENT) to serve humanity as their Saviour proclaimed
EVER NOTICE THAT?

AM I MISSIN SOMTHING HERE?
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 21 Oct, 2012 10:35 am
@jcboy,
Quote:
If these pastors and churches can’t stay out of politics tax the bastards!


Did you listen to all of his speech, especially the end of his speech, JC?

Watch the face of the guy with the black goatee just to the right of the preacher, 3rd row back.
jcboy
 
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Reply Sun 21 Oct, 2012 10:36 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
If these pastors and churches can’t stay out of politics tax the bastards!


Did you listen to all of his speech, especially the end of his speech, JC?


No I did not, I got bored with him, heard too many bigoted speaches by people like him.
Ceili
 
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Reply Sun 21 Oct, 2012 10:38 am
@jcboy,
The whole point of the speech is the ending. You should give it a listen.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 21 Oct, 2012 10:43 am
@jcboy,
It wasn't at all bigoted, JC. It was priceless. Ya gotta stay 'til the end!
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jcboy
 
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Reply Sun 21 Oct, 2012 10:45 am
@Ceili,
Okay I just did, worth the watch!

But I still say Tax the Churches Cool
Enzo
 
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Reply Sun 21 Oct, 2012 10:50 am
@jcboy,
Do you think if Churches are taxed, they'll have more say in the politics?
Or do you think keeping church and state separate is impossible since a large chunk of represented are religious?
No matter, It seems to me that a person's individual beliefs cannot be separated from their political views.
jcboy
 
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Reply Sun 21 Oct, 2012 11:00 am
@Enzo,
IMO It feels like that tax thing is really over due. I feel there is clear violations to the establishment clause, perhaps they should be taxed on the portion which is directly used to influence political decisions? Like the Mormon church that spent millions trying to defeat prop 8.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sun 21 Oct, 2012 11:35 am
@Enzo,
Enzo wrote:

Do you think if Churches are taxed, they'll have more say in the politics?
Or do you think keeping church and state separate is impossible since a large chunk of represented are religious?
No matter, It seems to me that a person's individual beliefs cannot be separated from their political views.

No. I don't think they have MORE say in politics. That's an already existing illusion. The so called separation of church and state. They have far too much say in our politics already. Right now, the alleged separation between church and state is merely a thin coat of painting here in the US. If they're taxed then what they say will at least be outed and in the open. That's at least the theory behind taxing the church. Tax them and force them to become responsible/accountable for much of the hatemongering they preach to their flock.
roger
 
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Reply Sun 21 Oct, 2012 01:45 pm
@tsarstepan,
My personal theory is that the very act of exempting churches from taxation amounts to "respecting an establishment of religion"
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