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Partial list of 927 eternal truths

 
 
Reply Sat 22 Sep, 2012 11:28 am
An Eschatological Laundry List
A Partial Register of the 927 Eternal Truths

1. This is it!

2. There are no hidden meanings.

3. You can’t get there from here, and besides there is no place else to go.

4. We are all already dying, and we will be dead for a long time.

5. Nothing lasts.

6. There is no way of getting all you want.

7. You can’t have anything until you let go of it.

8. You only get to keep what you give away.

9. There is no particular reason why you lost out on some things.

10. The world is not necessarily just, being good often does not pay
off and there is no compensation for misfortune.

11. You have a responsibility to do your best nonetheless.

12. It is a random universe to which we bring meaning.

13. You don’t really control anything.

14. You can’t make anyone love you.

15. No one is any stronger or weaker than anyone else.

16. Everyone is, in their own way vulnerable.

17. There are no great people.

18. If you have a hero, look again; You have diminished yourself in some way.

19. Everyone lies, cheats & pretends.

20. All evil is potential vitality in need of transformation.

21. All of you is worth something, if you will only own it.

22. Progress is an illusion.

23. Evil can be displaced but never eradicated, as all solutions breed new problems.

24. Yet it is necessary to keep struggling toward solution.

25. Childhood is a nightmare.

26. But it is very hard to be an on-your-own, take-care-of-yourself-cause
there-is-no-one-else-to-do-it-for-you grown up.

27. Each of us is ultimately alone.

28. The most important things, each person must do for themselves.

29. Love is not enough, but it sure helps.

30. We have only ourselves, and one another. That may not be much, but that’s all there is.

31. How strange, that so often, it all seems worth it.

32. We must live with the ambiguity of partial freedom,
partial power and partial knowledge.

33. All important decisions must be made on the basis of insufficient data.

34. Yet we are responsible for everything we do.

35.No excuses will be accepted.

36. You can run, but you can’t hide.

37. It is most important to run out of scapegoats.

38. We must learn the power of living with our helplessness.

39. The only victory, lies in surrender to oneself.

40. All of the significant battles are waged within yourself.

41. You are free to do whatever you like. You need only face the consequences.

42. What do you know……..for sure……….. anyway?

43. Learn to forgive yourself, again and again and again and again.

Originally conceived by Sheldon Kopp, author of:
“If You Meet the Buddha on the Road, Kill Him!” and
“Even A Stone Can Be A Teacher”

I have three of Sheldon's books --- The Hanged Man, This side of tragedy, and Guru.


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dalehileman
 
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Reply Sat 22 Sep, 2012 12:15 pm
@Rickoshay75,
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1. This is it!
You might have to elaborate on that. I presume you mean that when you're dead you're gone. However one can argue from an abstract viewpoint that the soul remains

The soul being everything about you except your body

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2. There are no hidden meanings.
Nonsense. Most are hidden and in some cases it has taken centuries off observation to even partially reveal them

That is, if you even acknowledge there are any such

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3. You can’t get there from here, and besides there is no place else to go.
See 1

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4. We are all already dying,
At least I am, at 81

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and we will be dead for a long time.
At least I will

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5. Nothing lasts.
Activity: Eternal Big-bang/Evolution/Expansion/Big-Crunch ad infinitum

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6. There is no way of getting all you want.
Some of us have everything we need but of course we might "want" to live longer

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7. You can’t have anything until you let go of it.
A bit overly general don't you think

I would have said "until you contemplate its loss," but then who am I

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8. You only get to keep what you give away.
See 7

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9. There is no particular reason why you lost out on some things.
This might profitably be reworded but then it might lose some of its force. I'm too literal I guess

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10. The world is not necessarily just, being good often does not pay
off and there is no compensation for misfortune.
So what else is new

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11. You have a responsibility to do your best nonetheless.
But then you will have manifold headaches

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12. It is a random universe to which we bring meaning.
I'd almost agree. However the apodictical existential pantheist might question the term "random,"for clearly the Universe is Her body and all the activity therein Her mind at work

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13. You don’t really control anything.
I don't, anyway

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14. You can’t make anyone love you.
Especially I

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15. No one is any stronger or weaker than anyone else.
Nothing is entirely anything while everything is partly something else

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16. Everyone is, in their own way vulnerable.
No kidding

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17. There are no great people.
Might require elaboration. In a single production of the Big Bang followed by meaningless random bouncing of objects off one another and ending in a whole lot of particles accelerating apart whilst nearing absolute zero, yes, acts of greatness lose their eternal qualities

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18. If you have a hero, look again; You have diminished yourself in some way.
Yes, you've admitted your own imperfection but at the same time you've drastically reduced the onset of another headache

See 11

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19. Everyone lies, cheats & pretends.
Even Her; though She can't help it since She's limited to doing only what's possible

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20. All evil is potential vitality in need of transformation.
I sort of like that one though I'll be first to concede that few about care what I think

However you've given me incentive to pursue the remaining 907

Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Sun 23 Sep, 2012 01:36 pm
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:

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1. This is it!
You might have to elaborate on that. I presume you mean that when you're dead you're gone. However one can argue from an abstract viewpoint that the soul remains >

If you are a believer in the impossible, none of this applies to you.





dalehileman
 
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Reply Sun 23 Sep, 2012 04:02 pm
@Rickoshay75,
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If you are a believer in the impossible, none of this applies to you.
Who, me
To the contrary my assertion is that the impossible can't be done, even by Her
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Sun 23 Sep, 2012 04:32 pm
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:

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If you are a believer in the impossible, none of this applies to you.
Who, me
To the contrary my assertion is that the impossible can't be done, even by Her


Well, yes, of course; but for Her the very concept of "impossible" does not exist.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 23 Sep, 2012 10:44 pm
@dalehileman,
There is only your body and the World of which it is a part. Souls, ghosts and egos are fantasies.
imans
 
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Reply Mon 24 Sep, 2012 12:14 am
on the contrary morons only the impossible is the possible reason, such morons that dont exhibit the extent of never meaning to think a second

if what exist is bc it is possible then nothing exist while existence is a certainty
**** u

n explain to me how is it possible that u speculate about the source of all what is created not by u while u also is created accordin to u subjectively but also objectively in the knowledge that ur being is not what u did

how is that possible morons
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 24 Sep, 2012 09:54 am
@Lustig Andrei,
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Well, yes, of course; but for Her the very concept of "impossible" does not exist.
I have to agree that the concept falls heavily on the abstract side. However it's apparent (to me anyhow) that the Universe is the way it is because that's the only way it can be, the contrary alternatives being, well, impossible

Thus the only feasible means for raising the humanoid is to provide a spherical rock full of cracks and with a molten core, orbiting a gigantic hydrogen bomb of questionable stability and limited life
dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 24 Sep, 2012 09:56 am
@JLNobody,
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Souls, ghosts and egos are fantasies.
I'd agree about the ghosts although the other two enjoy a sort of abstract validity
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imans
 
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Reply Mon 24 Sep, 2012 01:26 pm
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:

it's apparent (to me anyhow) that the Universe is the way it is because that's the only way it can be, the contrary alternatives being, well, impossible


wat is the only way possible, the universe wat does it mean, universe is created so how it is anything, for u the creator is unconditionnal love wat does it mean, that it is so nice to give u creation doing it constantly, why u asked for??? what is that head u are, crazy or worse

mister if it was the only way possible for universe to appear existing, what is making it collapsin now alltogether, how was it possible exclusivity at any instant then, and how one and any human head can say all universe truth and possibilities together and isolated while it is the only possible existence in absolute terms
**** u piece of ****
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Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Thu 18 Oct, 2012 01:42 pm
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:

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Well, yes, of course; but for Her the very concept of "impossible" does not exist.
I have to agree that the concept falls heavily on the abstract side. However it's apparent (to me anyhow) that the Universe is the way it is because that's the only way it can be, the contrary alternatives being, well, impossible


We'll probably never know the big picture of what is, just how it effects us in our world.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 18 Oct, 2012 03:06 pm
@Rickoshay75,
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We'll probably never know the big picture of what is, just how it effects us in our world.
Yes, no, Rick, you're probably right. However I think we ought to work on the idea that the Universe is the way it is, just as with life, through evolution; starting with maybe a tiny spec of uniform composition but infinite mass exploding into particles of matter and volumes of space, then differentiating into whatever forms are able to survive
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