INSPECTOR GENERAL's REPORT: FAST & FURIOUS

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*BREAKING: Fast and Furious Inspector General Report*

- Katie Pavlich

The Office of the Inspector General for the Department of Justice has
released a *400 page report,*
http://www.justice.gov/oig/reports/>concluding the internal DOJ
investigation into Operation Fast and Furious.

Current IG Michael Horowitz will present key findings in the report
tomorrow during a Congressional Oversight hearing on Capitol Hill. Horowitz
took over the IG position in March when former IG Cynthia Schnedar stepped
down. Schnedar, who did the bulk of the work in the report, is a long time
friend of Attorney General Eric Holder and worked for him during his time
as U.S. Attorney in Washington D.C.

DOJ Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein, who played a heavy
role during Fast and Furious and in its scandalous aftermath, submitted his
resignation just moments ago.

Stay tuned to Townhall for details as we read through the report.

UPDATE: Chairman of the House Oversight Committee Darrell Issa has issued a
response.

“The Inspector General’s report confirms findings by Congress’
investigation of a near total disregard for public safety in Operation Fast
and Furious. Contrary to the denials of the Attorney General and his
political defenders in Congress, the investigation found that information
in wiretap applications approved by senior Justice Department officials in
Washington did contain red flags showing reckless tactics and faults
Attorney General Eric Holder’s inner circle for their conduct. “Former
Deputy Attorney General Gary Grindler, Assistant Attorney General Lanny
Breuer who heads the Criminal Division, Deputy Assistant Attorney General
Jason Weinstein, Arizona U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, and Holder’s own
Deputy Chief of Staff Monty Wilkinson are all singled out for criticism in
the report. It’s time for President Obama to step in and provide
accountability for officials at both the Department of Justice and ATF who
failed to do their jobs. Attorney General Holder has clearly known about
these unacceptable failures yet has failed to take appropriate action for
over a year and a half.” Schmaler should be fired and Congress should
investigate the cozy friendship between the Department of Justice and Media
Matters immediately.

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Harry Truman had a sign on HIS desk,
admitting that "THE BUCK STOPS HERE."

We don 't know what obama thinks about that filosofy.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

hes already accepted it. Hes our president

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@OmSigDAVID,

" Attorney General Holder has clearly known about
these unacceptable failures yet has failed to take appropriate action for
over a year and a half.” Schmaler should be fired and Congress should
investigate the cozy friendship between the Department of Justice and Media
Matters immediately."

Why would the IG criticize his boss? This is what happens when a corrupt administration investigates itself.

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@OmSigDAVID,

One of the most interesting things about the IG report is the timeline which shows the whole process of allowing them to buy guns and try to follow them began in 2006.

For instance....

Quote:

Of the 474 firearms purchased during Operation Wide Receiver, ATF
Tucson did not interdict 410 of them. Some of the firearms that were not
interdicted were later recovered in the United States and Mexico. For example,
42 firearms purchased during Operation Wide Receiver were recovered in
Mexico between January 2007 and August 2011. 57 In April 2008, a firearm
purchased by Gonzalez was one of 60 firearms found at the scene of a gun
battle between competing factions of the Arellano-Felix Organization in
Tijuana, Mexico, in which 18 people were killed.

But don't worry folks... David will be along to tell us how Obama was President in 2007.

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David's just a little bit two-faced about this whole thing. He has advocated absolutely unrestricted gun sales to anybody by and and all US gun shops and gun fairs, and that includes gun sales (and heavier armaments) to anybody, including drug cartels and gangs. So why is he getting pissy about Fast and Furious? Hey, if drug barons and street gangs have guns bristling everywhere, then naturally we citizens have to have unrestricted rights to huge quantities of guns to exercise our sacred right of self-defense against them, right, David? Idiocy. Circular idiocy.

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@MontereyJack,

I think the argument is that Fast & Furious is a product of gun control ideology, ergo it is gun control that lead to this fiasco.

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

hes already accepted it. Hes our president

That 's not true; he 's trying to AVOID it.
I wonder if he 'll fire his pal, Holder, to save himself -- lay it off on him.

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@InfraBlue,

InfraBlue wrote:

I think the argument is that Fast & Furious is a product of gun control ideology,
ergo it is gun control that lead to this fiasco.

Yes, in that the fiasco was created to make control of guns LOOK GOOD,
(if thay had not been caught with their pants down).

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

David's just a little bit two-faced about this whole thing.
He has advocated absolutely unrestricted gun sales to anybody
by and and all US gun shops and gun fairs, and that includes gun sales
(and heavier armaments) to anybody, including drug cartels and gangs.

In other words, long have I advocated the same
control of guns as of Bibles or newspapers.

MontereyJack wrote:

So why is he getting pissy about Fast and Furious?

Because the repressionists were contriving to manipulate it theatrically,
to make personal freedom look bad.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

What?

So by NOT controlling who bought guns they made it look like we need to control who buys guns?

Oh.. so if they hadn't controlled who buys guns then it would have the opposite effect and we would see that we don't need to control who buys guns.

What?

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@OmSigDAVID,

Quote:

That 's not true; he 's trying to AVOID it

Just because your memory is collapsing doesnt mean mine is.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

What?

So by NOT controlling who bought guns they made it look like we need to control who buys guns?

Oh.. so if they hadn't controlled who buys guns then it would have the opposite effect and we would see that we don't need to control who buys guns.

What?

The freedom haters were hoping to rape the Constitution with a new ban on assault weapons.

They were hoping to back this effort by pretending that assault weapons from America are fueling the violence in Mexico.

This gun tracking scheme was intended to bolster that fallacy about "guns from America fueling Mexican violence".

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@farmerman,

DAVID wrote:

That 's not true; he 's trying to AVOID it

farmerman wrote:

Just because your memory is collapsing doesnt mean mine is.

Did he admit the blame on himself ?

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@parados,

parados wrote:

What?

Liberals strove to use fraud
to manipulate the situation
to make personal freedom look bad,
and make repression of our Constitutional Rights
appear to be necessary to rescue the Mexicans.

parados wrote:

So by NOT controlling who bought guns they made it look
like we need to control who buys guns?

Thay endeavored to slip guns to Mexican drug cartels
in hope of creating a publicity scandal with a lot of dead Mexicans,
to make REAL Americans look bad.

parados wrote:

Oh.. so if they hadn't controlled who buys guns then it would have
the opposite effect and we would see that we don't need to control who buys guns.

What?

The liberals were charlatans,
using American tax funds to create scandals
to freak out the American public, with their repressionist propaganda,
trying to stampede us against our own Constitutional freedom
to save the Mexicans, at the price of raping the Bill of Rights.

That 's what.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Thay endeavored to slip guns to Mexican drug cartels
in hope of creating a publicity scandal with a lot of dead Mexicans,
to make REAL Americans look bad.

I suspect that their goal was not so much that something bad would happen with the guns that they were allowing to flow to Mexico, but rather that they would simply "prove" that American guns were flowing to Mexico. At which point they would pretend that all the Mexican violence was due to guns from America.

America is in fact the cartels' source of FN "Five seveN" handguns. With the right ammo those handguns will cut through any amount of Kevlar (useless against hard armor though) and still have good stopping power.

However, the cartels get plenty of full-auto AK 47s from Hugo Chavez. And they also "acquire" a lot of the Mexican Army's own weapons. They don't need any semi-auto rifles from the US.

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@oralloy,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Thay endeavored to slip guns to Mexican drug cartels
in hope of creating a publicity scandal with a lot of dead Mexicans,
to make REAL Americans look bad.

oralloy wrote:

I suspect that their goal was not so much that something bad would happen with the guns that they were allowing to flow to Mexico, but rather that they would simply "prove" that American guns were flowing to Mexico. At which point they would pretend that all the Mexican violence was due to guns from America.

America is in fact the cartels' source of FN "Five seveN" handguns. With the right ammo those handguns will cut through any amount of Kevlar (useless against hard armor though) and still have good stopping power.

However, the cartels get plenty of full-auto AK 47s from Hugo Chavez. And they also "acquire" a lot of the Mexican Army's own weapons. They don't need any semi-auto rifles from the US.

As I understand it, the guns that were allowed to "walk"
were specificly addressed to criminals, by the couriers in use,
not just a free flow of guns.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Quote:

Liberals strove to use fraud
to manipulate the situation
to make personal freedom look bad,

Oh.. they did it by actually seeing who was buying the guns and where they were going. If we had no gun laws then we would have been much happier because they could have bought 10 times the amount of guns and without the ATF watching we would have just not known that 10 times the number of border agents were killed.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Quote:

As I understand it, the guns that were allowed to "walk"
were specificly addressed to criminals, by the couriers in use,
not just a free flow of guns.

As you understand it? Didn't you read the report? Because clearly you don't have a clue about what was actually going on if you think they used couriers and addressed labels on packages.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Thay endeavored to slip guns to Mexican drug cartels
in hope of creating a publicity scandal with a lot of dead Mexicans,
to make REAL Americans look bad.

David

How exactly do you think they did that David?
Do you think the government should arrest people for buying guns?

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