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Lenny Conundrum 464

 
 
Psycmoe
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2012 04:56 pm
@orifiel,
I found info about it, and an encriptor/decoder, here.

http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/baconian.php
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Mistero
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 03:34 am
@orifiel,
  A aaaaa   B aaaab   C aaaba   D aaabb   E aabaa   F aabab   G aabba   H aabbb   I abaaa   J abaab   K ababa   L ababb   M abbaa   N abbab   O abbba   P abbbb   Q baaaa   R baaab   S baaba   T baabb   U babaa   V babab   W babba   X babbb   Y bbaaa   Z bbaab
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RavenclawXD
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 03:45 am
@orifiel,
@orifiel,
Baconian is a type of decoding... usually for letters that you think are encrypted... consult Wiki for more definition
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Mistero
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 03:48 am
@jreneearias,
I've been discussing this riddle with my friends since yesterday, and I found you via google...
http://www.douban.com/group/topic/32588828/←here is some of our discussion
I think the first step is to rearrange the lines following "3967152486" (note that "6" appears twice in the series, fitting with the fact that the number of letters in the 6th line is twice as much as in other lines)
1AACAAAAABA
2CBAABACBBC
3BACAABAEBB
4AACDCCBCEA
5ACEAACABCE
6AAAABDAACECBADCACCCD
7ACACEADBAA
8DBBBAEAEAB
9CEAEAAEBAA
after rearrangement:
3BACAABAEBB
9CEAEAAEBAA
6AAAABDAACE
7ACACEADBAA
1AACAAAAABA
5ACEAACABCE
2CBAABACBBC
4AACDCCBCEA
8DBBBAEAEAB
6CBADCACCCD*

then the message becomes:
BC AA AA CA DC
AE AC AC BA BB
CA AA CE AC BA
AE AC AA AD BD
AA BE AA BC AC
BA DA AC AC EA
AE AD AA CB AC
EB AB AB BC EC
BA CA BC BE AC
BA EA AE CA BD
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Mistero
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 04:03 am
@Psycmoe,
I think this is more like a Polybius square?
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Silver1099
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 02:36 pm
@orifiel,
LOL i think i acedentally got the answer a week ago. i've always known what the said bout the hint. you need to re arrange the code thats why next to mysterios they gave you the numbers next. you write the code groups under the number they apear. group 1 goes under the one. the second goes under the 2 and that group of 20? they are the 2 S's. once you've done that you need to turn it into to letters. thats where i get stuck any help from there? i think thats when u need the bacon cipher?
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Silver1099
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 02:37 pm
@jreneearias,
LOL i think i acedentally got the answer a week ago. i've always known what the said bout the hint. you need to re arrange the code thats why next to mysterios they gave you the numbers next. you write the code groups under the number they apear. group 1 goes under the one. the second goes under the 2 and that group of 20? they are the 2 S's. once you've done that you need to turn it into to letters. thats where i get stuck any help from there? i think thats when u need the bacon cipher?
orifiel
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 03:37 pm
I bet that the answer is so simple that we all gonna be ashamed of ourselves for not knowing it xD
or the answer will be something like "He didn't found out what the message said because he lost it."
Very Happy
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Mistero
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 07:50 pm
@Silver1099,
I stuck here, too! I've tried Polybius square and playfair code but in vain...
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Psycmoe
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2012 12:43 pm
Organized like Mystiro did above, and then counted how many of each double existed (AA most frequently). Suggests AA is probably E.

Tried something like this:
Alph: E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z A B C D
Code: A B C D E A B C D E A B C D E A B C D E A B C D E
A B C D E B C E E A C D E A B D E A B C E A B C D

So e = AA, F = BB, and soforth. No luck though, and I'm stuck again. Decoding like this starts with "AWKZF MZETE" so I doubt it's correct. Maybe this will help someone figure it out?
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Mozart
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:10 am
@Silver1099,
Hint #2
B A C
A A B
C C A
A A A
A A B
B A A
A A C
E A B
B B B
B A C
A = Dot
B = Dash

This looks like morse. I got this yet: .U.SUD..O. (. = missing letter), but I don't know what C and E means.
Psycmoe
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 09:28 am
@Mozart,
By skipping the C's and E's, I got:
NUESUDIAON
bopscopbird
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2012 04:30 pm
@Psycmoe,
If you're going with the baconian thing, then delete all the C's D's and E's. Then translate it on that baconian decoder site and depending on the settings you'll get various gibberish. BUT, one answer, "AFFYIEERKS" has ten letters just like "mysterious". I tried unscrambling it and the best I could come up with was "fiery fakes", but that doesn't make any sense.

NOW, moving onto clue #2...again I removed the C's and E's from the groupings. First I tried typing out the letters as they appear from left to right, and I got "sand" on the baconian translator. Not sure if that's an actual clue or just a freak coincidence that I got a real word. If you type the letters as they appear vertically you get diddly squat.

But I feel like I'm onto something, now just to figure out what to do with the morse code? Also, if it's baconian, then perhaps a ≠ . as in morse code, but the "." is the "A" font in the code and the "-" is the "B" font.

Has anyone tried encoding the "I found it..." part of the message in baconian? How about in morse code? The "I found it" message has 101 letters, whereas the encoded message (before taking out c's d's and e's) has 100 letters. Does any of this kind of thing matter?
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