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300,000 Education Jobs have been Cut, Should I Care?

 
 
Reply Sun 19 Aug, 2012 12:39 am
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(CNN) - Budget cuts are forcing districts to scale back on teachers and staff, resulting in larger class sizes and fewer school days, according to a White House report released Saturday.

More than 300,000 education jobs have been lost since the end of the recession in June 2009, said the report, which was prepared by the White House Council of Economic Advisers, Domestic Policy Council and National Economic Council.

"Think about what that means for our country. At a time when the rest of the world is racing to out-educate America, these cuts force our kids into crowded classrooms, cancel programs for preschoolers and kindergarteners, and shorten the school week and the school year. That's the opposite of what we should be doing as a country," the report quotes President Barack Obama from an address in June.

As a result of the cuts, the national student-teacher ratio increased from 2008 to 2010, from 15.3 to 16, the report said, reversing nearly a decade of gains. Typical class sizes are larger than the ratio because it includes teachers for students with disabilities and other special cases.

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Some schools are also shaving the number of days students spend behind their desks by shortening the school week, school year and trimming programs like preschool and kindergarten, the report said.

http://schoolsofthought.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/18/white-house-report-urges-investment-after-300000-education-jobs-lost/?hpt=hp_t3

My response is "cut another 700,000 jobs and then we should be about right"....education is one of the most bloated and wasteful industries in America, what is wrong with education is that money is spent poorly not that it is underfunded. Cut the spending and end the Washington interference (mandates) and then watch how fast the school boards figure out how to run the schools efficiently. Far far too much money is spent on nearly useless "support" staff, fire most of them and get more teachers and then we will be golden.

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Reply Sun 19 Aug, 2012 12:52 am
@hawkeye10,
http://veneremurcernui.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/coulson-cato-ps-cost-scores-2010-s.jpg
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Reply Sun 19 Aug, 2012 01:20 am
@hawkeye10,
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1996-1997
STATE NONCERTIFIED PERSONNEL
BY PERSONNEL TYPE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS
PERSONNEL TYPE
FULL TIME EQUIVALENCE
Assistant Superintendents
8.0
Business Managers
56.6
Business Services - Directors/Coordinators/Supervisors
94.6
Business Services - All Other Personnel
491.3
Maintenance & Operation - Directors/Coordinators/Supervisors
302.8
Maintenance & Operation - All Other Personnel
4,851.8
Food Service - Directors/Coordinators/Supervisors
195.9
Food Service - All Other Personnel
2,931.6
Transportation - Directors/Coordinators/Supervisors
144.9
Transportation - All Other Personnel
1,383.7
Other - Directors/Coordinators/Supervisors
123.1
All Other - Attendance Services Staff
60.0
All Other - Library Media Aides
516.9
All Other - Nurses
111.4
All Other - Security Officers
140.4
All Other - Social Services Staff
44.5
All Other - Regular Education Teacher Aides
2,002.1
All Other - Coaching Assistants
226.3
All Other - Secretarial/Clerical (Central Admin.)
988.2
All Other - Secretarial/Clerical (School Admin.)
2,033.2
All Other - Secretarial/Clerical (Students Support Service)
324.8
All Other - Special Education Paraprofessionals
3,001.3
All Other - Others
663.4
TOTAL
20,696.8

Quote:
1996-1997
STATE CERTIFIED PERSONNEL
BY PERSONNEL TYPE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS

FULL-TIME EQUIVALENCE
PERSONNEL TYPE
CENTRAL OFFICE
ELEMENTARY
JR. HIGH
SR. HIGH
TOTAL
Superintendent
276.8
0.0
0.0
0.0
276.8
Assoc.Asst. Superintendents
92.7
0.0
0.0
0.0
92.7
Administrative Assistants
19.0
5.9
4.2
6.8
35.9
Principals
0.0
768.4
167.7
318.6
1,254.7
Assistant Principals
0.0
64.7
111.5
242.6
418.8
Directors/Supervisors Spec. Ed.
93.1
9.5
3.8
7.4
113.8
Directors/Supervisors of Health
9.7
0.7
1.0
1.3
12.7
Directors/Supervisors of Voc. Ed.
14.7
0.0
0.0
5.2
19.9
Instructional Coordinators/Supervisors
51.0
13.1
1.9
8.0
74.0
All Other Directors/Supervisors
103.3
12.7
6.5
22.6
145.1
Other Curriculum Specialists
51.2
14.9
1.2
14.8
82.1
Practical Arts/Vocational Teachers
0.0
20.2
137.0
801.5
958.7
Special Ed. Teachers
0.0
1,636.0
582.0
824.0
3,042.0
Prekindergarten Teachers
0.0
163.1
0.0
0.0
163.1
Kindergarten Teachers
0.0
1,092.3
0.0
0.0
1,092.3
All Other Teachers
0.0
12,952.5
4,085.6
8,014.7
25,052.8
Library Media Specialists
0.0
551.5
132.3
280.0
963.8
School Counselors
0.0
430.9
186.2
480.0
1,097.1
Clinical or School Psychologists
182.4
90.6
27.0
31.3
331.3
Nurses
0.0
266.7
60.2
74.5
401.4
Speech Pathologists
132.1
258.0
24.3
15.7
430.1
Audiologists
9.0
3.1
0.0
0.1
12.2
School Social Work Services
100.4
57.5
16.6
19.3
193.8
Reading Specialists/Teachers
0.0
451.8
47.4
18.4
517.6
Others
165.9
211.2
19.3
116.0
512.4
TOTAL
1,301.3
19,075.3
5,615.7
11,302.8
37,295.1


97-97 headcount 496863

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2009-2010
STATE NONCERTIFIED PERSONNEL
BY PERSONNEL TYPE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS
PERSONNEL TYPE
FULL TIME EQUIVALENCE
Assistant Superintendents
5.4
Business Managers
95.6
Business Services - Directors/Coordinators/Supervisors
100.6
Business Services - All Other Personnel
443.0
Maintenance & Operation - Directors/Coordinators/Supervisors
397.9
Maintenance & Operation - All Other Personnel
5,044.7
Food Service - Directors/Coordinators/Supervisors
314.1
Food Service - All Other Personnel
3,020.7
Transportation - Directors/Coordinators/Supervisors
171.0
Transportation - All Other Personnel
1,732.1
Other - Directors/Coordinators/Supervisors
161.6
All Other - Attendance Services Staff
110.6
All Other - Library Media Aides
538.5
All Other - Nurses
123.5
All Other - Security Officers
158.5
All Other - Social Services Staff
64.7
All Other - Regular Education Teacher Aides
3,073.6
All Other - Coaching Assistants
448.8
All Other - Secretarial/Clerical (Central Admin.)
793.1
All Other - Secretarial/Clerical (School Admin.)
2,162.3
All Other - Secretarial/Clerical (Students Support Service)
517.6
All Other - Special Education Paraprofessionals
6,383.9
All Other - Others
741.6
Technology - Directors/Coordinators/Supervisors
188.0
Technology - All Other Personnel
723.6
Parents as Teachers
215.6
School Resource Officer
33.8
TOTAL
27,764.4




Quote:
2009-2010
STATE CERTIFIED PERSONNEL
BY PERSONNEL TYPE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS

FULL-TIME EQUIVALENCE
PERSONNEL TYPE
CENTRAL OFFICE
ELEMENTARY
JR. HIGH
SR. HIGH
TOTAL
Superintendent
263.5
0.0
0.0
0.0
263.5
Assoc.Asst. Superintendents
89.7
0.0
0.0
0.0
89.7
Administrative Assistants
30.5
8.7
6.1
13.1
58.4
Principals
0.0
705.5
229.6
307.2
1,242.3
Assistant Principals
0.0
59.5
168.6
301.4
529.5
Directors/Supervisors Spec. Ed.
102.1
8.7
5.2
5.3
121.3
Directors/Supervisors of Health
4.0
0.9
0.6
2.6
8.1
Directors/Supervisors of Voc. Ed.
8.3
0.0
0.0
4.7
13.0
Instructional Coordinators/Supervisors
97.8
44.7
9.6
23.3
175.4
All Other Directors/Supervisors
128.7
18.6
7.7
47.3
202.3
Other Curriculum Specialists
65.0
47.6
19.8
16.9
149.3
Practical Arts/Vocational Teachers
0.0
31.4
137.4
1,086.7
1,255.5
Special Ed. Teachers
0.0
1,890.1
895.2
1,135.8
3,921.1
Prekindergarten Teachers
0.0
490.0
0.0
0.0
490.0
Kindergarten Teachers
0.0
1,765.3
0.0
0.0
1,765.3
All Other Teachers
0.0
12,616.2
5,627.6
8,460.0
26,703.8
Library Media Specialists
0.0
493.0
158.1
208.8
859.9
School Counselors
0.0
401.6
258.8
475.8
1,136.2
Clinical or School Psychologists
118.3
124.0
46.3
47.7
336.3
Nurses
0.0
286.2
90.1
96.2
472.5
Speech Pathologists
125.5
330.5
35.0
26.5
517.5
Audiologists
7.6
4.0
0.9
1.0
13.5
School Social Work Services
85.9
120.5
31.3
45.7
283.4
Reading Specialists/Teachers
0.0
660.4
116.2
32.8
809.4
Others
109.5
102.3
34.3
46.5
292.6
TOTAL
1,236.4
20,209.7
7,878.4
12,385.3
41,709.8



09-10 headcount 509018

In Kansas student headcount goes up 2.4% but support staff headcount goes up 9.7% and certified headcount goes up 11.8% between 96 and 09.....DURING THE AGE OF INCREASED PRODUCTIVITY IN THE REAL WORLD.

Houston, we have a problem!


http://svapp15586.ksde.org/k12/state_reports.aspx
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 19 Aug, 2012 01:57 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
President Obama used his weekly radio and Internet address to criticize Republicans for supporting cuts in education that would translate into more teacher layoffs, insisting the country’s schools need more investments, not less, reports Reuters. His words coincided with the release of a new White Hose report that claims more than 300,000 education jobs have been lost since the end of the recession in 2009.

“At a time when the rest of the world is racing to out-educate America, these cuts force our kids into crowded classrooms,” Obama said.

The national student-teacher ratio has increased 4.6 percent, according to the White House report, that claims the increase reversed achievements that had taken place over the last decade, reports the Hill. The report points out that the decrease in education spending would lead to lower graduation rates and a decline in achievement levels, notes CNN.

The report gave Obama a perfect opportunity to once again tout his jobs plan that would provide money to states so they can keep teachers, police officers, and firefighters on the payroll, points out the Associated Press. By pushing Congress to act on the issue it also helps Obama’s effort to paint Republicans as obstructionists who are more interested in winning elections than helping the country.


http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/08/18/obama_calls_for_increasing_education_spending_citing_increased_teacher_student_ratio_and_lost_jobs.html

The problem for Obama is that a lot of us think that the increase in students to teachers as the Funding falls is a direct consequence of bad federal mandates, as so much money is wasted on non educational and non critical work. Talk about how many students are in one room does not tell us that we need to spend more money, it tells us that we need need to take a hatchet to Washington.

As per usual Obama at least is acting like he does not understand those who dont agree with him, though in this case there is a better than even chance that he is truly ignorant.
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