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Uncertainty in relativity

 
 
Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 10:23 am
I have noted over the years after having entertained an interest in relativity some 70 years that there’s a nagging residue. More than one observer has expressed a lingering sense of discomfort about

1. Privileged reference frame. From what i’ve encountered I’ve noted the feeling that such a frame is required in order for relativity to hang together

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity

2. The same observers exhibit a subtle ambiguity about time-at-a-distance, which I have discussed in

http://able2know.org/topic/187876-1

Somewhat OT but in a broader context,

http://able2know.org/topic/186538-1


So I am wondering whether any of you real scholars amongst us have noted these troubling discrepancies. Incidentally in this connection

http://onlinephilosophyclub.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6266
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Reply Sat 9 Jun, 2012 12:07 pm
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:

1. Privileged reference frame. From what i’ve encountered I’ve noted the feeling that such a frame is required in order for relativity to hang together

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity
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The opposite. Relativity starts with an assumption that all inertial reference frames are equal.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jun, 2012 12:35 pm
@Brandon9000,
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The opposite. Relativity starts with an assumption that all inertial reference frames are equal.
Sorry Bran I wasn’t entirely clear in my later years with incipient Alz’s. What I meant was, some more intuitively unlikely conclusions of relativity but nonetheless hanging together—such as clocks slowing and shrinking—interdependent as they are—suggest that a more general supposition, that eventually it will be demonstrated also that the constants assume the values that they do because they are interdependent—so none is “preferred” but a change in one would entail paradox or contradiction to the others. In other words, things are the way they are because they can’t be any other way

Of course as a typical blockhead my vocabulary in that realm isn’t nearly as extensive as yours but I’d be happy to elaborate on this interdependence as I see it perhaps to diminish any purely semantic aspects
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jun, 2012 01:06 pm
@Brandon9000,
Getting back to the privileged frame however, I don’t know whether it could be called by that term, but there’s one nagging frame Science isn’t sure about. After perusing relativity in my early life, in spite of the notion that all motion is relative there’s a very strong suggestion, not much discussed because I suppose it embarrasses the classic relativists, that there is a zero frame to which all motion can be referred

…...or as the Average Clod attempting to gain a foothold am I again wrong
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