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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 05:33 pm
Shocked Embarrassed Rolling Eyes
I have noted a shocking new round of products cheapened by their manufacturers and sold to the public without notice, or billed as "improved." In particular, Scott's toilet tissue has gotten almost thin enough to see through. One must handle it extremely gently to avoid having it destruct in your hand prior to or even during use. I and Mrs edgarblythe raised four children using Scott's, persevering even when a visiting brother called it GI Joe issue. It was low cost and a roll lasted a long time. For the first time in over three decades I find myself at a crossroads, with the missus solidly at my side. What brand of tp do you recommend and why?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 05:42 pm
I am very fond of the one (Sorbent?) which is double the length of the normal roll. It is nice and thick - and does, indeed, last twice as long. For some reason I am annoyed by having to change the roll frequently.
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eoe
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 05:46 pm
Never heard of Sorbent. Must be a local brand.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 05:54 pm
I find Scott to be the mot economical, even if I have to double or truple up on the layers. Recently I was in Sam's club, and they did not have Scot's. I was obliged to take Northern. Now Northern has a nice feel to it, and is quite spongy in texture. But I do resent having to bring out a new roll every day.

I will never, never, never buy Charmin. I don't care if I need to use the Sunday funnies, in a pinch. My abhorrence to the product goes back to the days when Mr. Whipple was hawking its virtues. Every time he said, "Please don't squeeze the Charmin", I became so angry, that it necessitated using one of his competitor's products. I even wrote a nasty letter to the manufacturer, and as I had expected, did not get any satisfaction.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 06:04 pm
I get the recycled TP. It's not the best and not the worst TP, but I feel good about buying it. If I'm buying TP where they don't sell recycled stuff, I buy Scott. Haven't noticed it getting lass valuable.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 06:08 pm
And furthermore, I hate the soft and fluffy TP because it leaves lint behind - how gross is that?

Now, I have noticed a lessening in value of many cereals. They make the box bigger and the content shrinks, the prices are outrageous!
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Ceili
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 06:17 pm
I recently noticed the centre roll, hole is getting larger as well.
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colorbook
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 06:19 pm
Still use Scott Tissue in our house too. Over the years it has gotten thinner and the rolls smaller...it still claims to have 1000 sheets per roll. K-Mart carries a brand similar to Scott. It's cheaper but it seems to last about the same amount of time.

When I see products that I've used over the years, claiming they are new and improved, I think, "oh no what have they done to it now?"

I worked in large corporate offices where I've seen cases and cases of toilet paper ordered in. In no time at all it would disappear...probably more like stolen. The big boss ordered the stuff locked up and inventoried on a regular basis, because it was too damned expensive for employees to take home.
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Montana
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 07:27 pm
Cottonelle double rolls. I gotta have my soft TP.
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Portal Star
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 07:33 pm
Be kind to your behind... Get some of the nice soft and squishy ones that don't break apart.
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makemeshiver33
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 07:56 pm
I went to Scott....because of the two lil boys in my house that think it takes a whole roll to clean thier tushes with. It helped......lol
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theollady
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 08:03 pm
Yeah, edgar, I have noted thinness. Like Montana, I like to buy cottonelle because of the absorbency and you can use less at a time.
And like littlek I don't like lint left behind, so-- with cottonelle, there is a smooth surface that is lintless, but the feel is "poofy" and rich.
It is more expensive, I guess- and not recommended for those with S. tanks/vs city sewage acct. That is another factor that keeps Scott in business.
Deb, that must be an Australian brand, never heard of 'Sorbent' here.

What about paying the SAME for a 5 ounce bag of chips that we got seven ounces in last year???
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 08:07 pm
I'm still smarting from when they began putting 4 pounds of sugar in bags instead of 5 and charging the same price.
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colorbook
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 08:13 pm
For the older crowd...do you remember the separate little white sheets of toilet paper they used to put in the dispensers of public and school restrooms...it resembled fine sandpaper?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 08:20 pm
I've seen that. I went to so many schools I saw a number of different kinds.
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 08:51 pm
Recycled toilet paper? Ain't goin' there on a bet!
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Montana
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 10:21 pm
theollady wrote:
Yeah, edgar, I have noted thinness. Like Montana, I like to buy cottonelle because of the absorbency and you can use less at a time.
And like littlek I don't like lint left behind, so-- with cottonelle, there is a smooth surface that is lintless, but the feel is "poofy" and rich.
It is more expensive, I guess- and not recommended for those with S. tanks/vs city sewage acct. That is another factor that keeps Scott in business.


Why is it not recommended for septic tanks? I have a septic tank and I still use it.
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colorbook
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 10:44 pm
Since we are on the subject of TP, I found this interesting and amusing article:



Great Moments in Toilet Paper History--Buck Wolf ABC News


You really have to appreciate the little things in life. Consider this: The average American uses 57 sheets of toilet paper a day and more than 20,805 sheets a year. That's a lot of sheet.

You really don't appreciate toilet paper until you don't have it. Then you think about the alternatives. Perhaps it's a commentary on American journalism that just a little more than 100 years ago, today's newspaper was tomorrow's toilet paper.
And in a good part of the world, TP is still a luxury.

Many people think British plumber Thomas Crapper invented the toilet. But the credit really belongs to Sir John Harington, a godson of Queen Elizabeth I. (ABCNEWS.com)

But America is still the world's leader in toilet paper. We're the biggest producer, the biggest consumer. And while foreigners might laugh at our cars and shoddy consumer goods, most of the world agrees we're world-class when it comes to wiping.

The U.S. toilet paper market is worth about $2.4 billion a year, and the leading manufacturers ?- Kimberly-Clark and Procter & Gamble ?- are recognized worldwide, powering our exports beyond those of Japan and China ?- who still trail us in TP production.

And now the history of this very American product is at your fingertips, thanks to the Toilet Paper Encyclopedia on the ToiletPaperWorld.com Web site.

The Scott Paper Co. was once so embarrassed that it was manufacturing toilet paper that it wouldn't put its label on the product. That was about 100 years ago. "Maybe they thought toilet paper was just a fad," says Kenn Fischburg, CEO of ToiletPaperWorld.com. "I guess you could say it caught on."

Fischburg ?- a second-generation paper goods and cleaning supplies vendor ?- is trying to make a go of it on the Internet, promising retail customers wholesale prices.

It's more than just toilet paper he's selling. And it all comes with a story.

Early American settlers used everything from leaves to corncobs to wipe their bottoms, he says. French royalty wiped with lace. The Vikings used discarded wool. And when in ancient Rome, you did as the Romans did ?- with a sponge.

It's no wonder that when the Scott company put paper on a roll in 1890, the world changed. Here then, courtesy of Fischburg's encyclopedia, are some of the great moments in toilet paper history.

Toilet Paper Timeline

1391: The King's Pleasure ?- Chinese emperors begin ordering toilet paper in sheets measuring 2 feet by 3 feet.

1596: The Royal Flush ?- Sir John Harington, a godson of Queen Elizabeth I, invents the first flushing toilet (a distinction often attributed to plumber Thomas Crapper).

1857: Every Sheet Bears My Name ?- New York entrepreneur Joseph C. Gayetty manufactures the first packaged pre-moistened sheets of bathroom tissue ?- called "therapeutic paper" ?- in packs of 500 for 50 cents. Gayetty is so proud of his innovation that he had his name imprinted on each sheet.

1861-1904: The Gifts of Thomas Crapper ?- British plumber Thomas Crapper revolutionizes the toilet with a series of plumbing-related patents.

1872: Kimberly Meets Clark ?- Charles Benjamin Clark, a 28-year-old Civil War veteran, recruits John A. Kimberly to join him in building a paper mill in Wisconsin.

1890: On a Roll ?- Scott Paper introduces toilet paper on a roll. But the paper goods company is somewhat embarrassed to be associated with such an "unmentionable" thing and refuses to put its name on the product. Instead, the toilet paper bears the name of intermediaries. As a result, at the turn of the century, the Waldorf Hotel in New York becomes a leader in the toilet paper business.

1916: Gas Masks Become Sanitary Napkins ?- Kimberly-Clark begins concentrating on a special wadding paper. With World War I brewing in Europe, this product, Cellucotton, was adapted for use as a filter in gas masks and bandages. Nurses began using it as sanitary pads. Cellucotton was renamed "Cellu-Naps," and then "Kotex."

1920: The Tissue and the Pop-Up Box ?- Kimberly-Clark introduces the Kleenex tissue. Nine years later, this product is marketed in the patented Pop-Up box.

1925: Great Scott! ?- Scott is recognized as the leading toilet paper company in the world. (Kimberly-Clark acquired it in 1995.)

1928: From Charming to Charmin ?- Hoberg paper introduces Charmin. The logo ?- a woman's head from a cameo pin ?- was designed to appeal to feminine fashions of the day. A female employee called the packaging "Charming," and the product's brand name was born.

1932: Wiping Away Depression ?- Charmin tries to mitigate the pain of the Great Depression by introducing the economy-sized four-roll pack.

1942: A Softer World ?- St. Andrew's Paper Mill in England introduces two-ply toilet paper.

1944: Patriotic Toilet Paper Duty ?- The United States honors Kimberly-Clark with an "E" Award (for excellence in commercial services) for its heroic effort supplying soldiers fighting in World War II.

1964: Enter Mr. Whipple ?- He appears for more than 20 years in TV, radio and print advertising. The real George Whipple was the president of the Benton & Bowles advertising agency, which came up with the "Please, don't squeeze the Charmin" ad campaign. He sold the rights to his name to Procter & Gamble for $1. Dick Wilson, the vaudeville veteran who portrayed Mr. Whipple on TV, later recalled his agent calling him about the project.

"My agent asked me, 'What do you think of toilet paper?' And I told him, 'I think everybody should use it.'"

For his role in making Charmin the No. 1 toilet paper in America, Wilson's salary grew to $300,000 a year, and Procter & Gamble promised him a "lifetime supply" of toilet paper.

1973: The Johnny Carson Toilet Paper Scare ?- Johnny Carson makes a joke about the United States facing an acute shortage of toilet paper. This prompts viewers to run out to stores and begin hoarding. Carson apologizes the next day for causing the scare and retracts his quote.

1991: Covert TP ?- The U.S. military uses toilet paper to camouflage its tanks in Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War.

1995: The Great Toilet Paper Caper ?- A Philadelphia city employee is charged with stealing $34,000 worth of toilet paper from Veterans Stadium just before an Eagles football game. The accused, Ricardo Jefferson, was fired. City spokesman Tony Radwanski said, "We don't really know how long this was going on. We only looked at a 10-month period from October 1994 to August 1995, but man, he really wiped that stadium clean."

1995: Bathroom Merger ?- Kimberly-Clark and Scott Paper join forces. A year later the company has earnings of $1.34 billion, not to mention Cottonelle, the second best-selling toilet paper.

1999: Paperless Toilet ?- Japanese inventors unveil the paperless toilet. The device washes, rinses and blow-dries the user's bottom with a heating element.

2000: Men Are From Folders, Women Are From Wadders ?- A Kimberly-Clark marketing survey on bathroom habits finds that women are "wadders" and men are "folders." Women also tend to use much more toilet paper than men.

P.S. What toilet paper does Fischburg use? "It's like fine wine," he says. "It depends what mood I'm in."
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eoe
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 11:13 pm
Geez, would you trust a paperless toilet? I'd be leery about relying on such a thing to do it's job thoroughly.
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Misti26
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 11:19 pm
I never thought I would find anything less expensive than Scott Tissue, but sure enough, in Dollar Store, there was the exact duplicate, with 1250 tissues which Scott has 1000, feels the same, for less money. Woo Hoo!
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