Way the hell over the top.
No, I'm not way the hell over the top. In fact, that post barely expresses the amount of disgust I feel with those two.
If you think the ideas that Hawkeye expresses are merely "radical" you either don't follow his posts very closely or you don't choose your words very carefully. Thinking that is radical might be extreme, even revolutionary, but it is not the term I would use to describe the constant anti-female, sexist, misogynist, and bigoted
comments that characterize his remarks in this thread and others.
In this thread, Ceili called him out on it, by pointing out that he was using the topic to find yet another opportunity to bash females--and she was right.
In this thread, we have been discussing a Congresswoman, shot in an assassination attempt, who was forced into a medical absence from Congress for a period of months--not a year, because Congress is not in session for a year--only a period of months, before she submitted her resignation. That she remained in office, and retained that office, during that period, was entirely consistent with what every other member of Congress has ever done in similar circumstances.
But, in Giffords case, Hawkeye calls this "a scam"--a scam
--and "a stunt"--and said quite pointedly that he doubted that a man
had ever pulled such "a stunt". He has labeled her "dishonorable" among other unjustified assaults on her character. All of this crap is very consistent with what he says about women, in general, in other threads, and it is flat out bigotry, that I find offensive and intolerable. Comparing it to the stench of a fart, is an understatement, but I am saying quite clearly that it stinks. And his Bilious side-kick tells him how good it smells and eggs him on, adding his own pollutants to the atmosphere.
This sort of pejorative attack on a female member of Congress is nothing more than gratuitous woman-bashing. It has nothing to do with the broader issues of whether temporary replacements are necessary to fill Congressional seats, or how one evaluates "incapacity", or the length of incapacity that is acceptable before a resignation is submitted, or whether incapacitated members of Congress should have their seats vacated by another authority--it is unrelated to any of those things. There was no "scam" or "stunt" involved with Giffords remaining in office, or to any of the medical or salary benefits she received during the interval of her recovery, those were things she was entitled to as a federal employee/office holder who was literally injured during the performance of her duties, and in her work representing the government of the United States in her district. To accuse this woman of dishonesty, fraud, and dishonorable conduct, not only goes beyond any reasonable appraisal of the situation, it is absolutely uncalled for and outrageous--it stinks
to high heaven.
You just want this man to be "reasonable"? You expect a bigot
to be reasonable?
I am sick of the sexist and misogynist crap continuously expressed by these two posters in thread after thread. I can ignore it only up to a point, and then I will react to it, just as I would to any other sort of bigotry, and negative stereotyping of any entire group, that is voiced on these boards.
I am also sick of the tag-team routine of these two, that is designed to take over threads, and which has the destructive effect of grinding meaningful topic discussion in a thread to a halt while they pursue their own agendas and focus attention on themselves.
And I am sick of the hypocrisy of posters like you, who tell me to stop feeding them, and then immediately respond to them yourself.
That you might not appreciate the manner in which I chose to express myself in that post is fine, you do not have to appreciate it. But I am most definitely not being "a troll"--I am simply fed up with their crap and chose to express those feelings in the clearest manner I could.