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Reply Sat 5 Nov, 2011 10:22 pm
we as humans by nature want to make things easier and better. The only problem i see with that in the american culture is that the things we want to make easier doesnt mean a god damn thing. I was with my g friend and she said
"i wish netflix would display the entire description of the movie, i dont feel like goin back and fourth while i search". We agreed that the next version of netflix would ultimetly correct this problem. we agreed that many of us feel the same way about netflix. So we went from reading newspapers to find out local showtimes to being too lazy to click a couple of buttons, The problem is we are fixing the wrong things. For those cultures that have nothing near the technology of netflix make me wonder what bothers them about day to day
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 5 Nov, 2011 10:26 pm
@smcmonagle,
Are you playing here too?

Capitalism is broken, it does not incentivize the right things anymore. Since it no longer works to promote a better life we need to either reform it or ditch it.
smcmonagle
 
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Reply Sat 5 Nov, 2011 10:32 pm
@hawkeye10,
the problem there is the american culture is far too big to change. We have no choice but to ditch it and become apart of some smaller culture that exist in which we agree with.
You wouldnt believe some looks i got for not knowing about the "kardashian" breakup let alone whoever that is gettin married. These people are far from change
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 5 Nov, 2011 10:40 pm
@smcmonagle,
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the problem there is the american culture is far too big to change

Bullshit, the majority of the globe is now lurching towards revolution, reform is always an option before we get there though. The economic system is now a global economic system, maybe you never heard about the change...and it WILL be either reformed or replaced, size does not change this.

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You wouldnt believe some looks i got for not knowing about the "kardashian" breakup let alone whoever that is gettin married. These people are far from change
The application of pain in the right quantity and the right place has the ability to correct ignorance and passivity PDQ....how about you try keeping your eye on the ball, on what matters?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 5 Nov, 2011 11:06 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
Are you playing here too?

Capitalism is broken, it does not incentivize the right things anymore. Since it no longer works to promote a better life we need to either reform it or ditch it.
Capitalism is the laws of nature; supply n demand; enduring principles like the rules of arithmetic.





David
smcmonagle
 
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Reply Sun 6 Nov, 2011 10:32 pm
@hawkeye10,
thats my point. mass media has control over on the american culture. Keeping everyones eyes off the ball. The "ball" is so much more simple then what american culture finds to be important. Yea, change is on the way. Political change, economical change, environmental change, i see it too, believe me i occupied philly. But the change im lookin for is far out of out reach from where we are and where we r going
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 6 Nov, 2011 10:35 pm
@smcmonagle,
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But the change im lookin for is far out of out reach from where we are and where we r going
Bullshit, when you burn your hand on the stove you pay attention right away, pain gets your attention. America is in for a heap of pain because we fucked up, and that is good. Americans are fat, lazy and ignorant, but that can and will change damn fast. You are way too pessimistic.
smcmonagle
 
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Reply Sun 6 Nov, 2011 10:38 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
capitalism and nature have nothing to do with eachother.. for 1 "nature has been here a whole lot longer. Capitalism is only a law of society.

"Supply and demand" supply of what? gold? oil? we dont need it. demand of what.? >>we need minimal items. 1 food. and lets define. fruit, nuts, veg. thats it
2. water. everywhere
3.love everywhere
bs on capitalism being laws of nature
smcmonagle
 
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Reply Sun 6 Nov, 2011 10:41 pm
@hawkeye10,
or realistic
we have evolved way passes survival of the fittest and are currently at all must survive. this gives way for more fat and ignorant people
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 6 Nov, 2011 10:54 pm
@smcmonagle,
smcmonagle wrote:

or realistic
we have evolved way passes survival of the fittest and are currently at all must survive. this gives way for more fat and ignorant people
Yes, our politics do not match the possible, and all that tells you is that our politics are broken. When fantasy meets reality which one do you think wins? Look, it sucks that you have grown up in la-la land America, but that is no excuse for your ignorance. Hit the books, learn your history, and you will see that what you take to be intractable problems can vanish almost overnight. Pain is the teacher, and there are tens of millions of Americans in great pain today as their way of life devolves into poverty, with hundreds of thousands joining them every week. The cure is going to hurt like hell, but the disease (ignorance and poor choice making) will be cured rapidly. The victim culture is a dead man walking now, it is all but over. As my 19 year old daughter says " we cant save everyone, and the stupid ones need to go first" is where we are going. Or as our forefathers put it man a ore or get tossed overboard, there is no room in this boat for whiners and slackers.
smcmonagle
 
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Reply Mon 7 Nov, 2011 10:16 pm
@hawkeye10,
well said
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 8 Nov, 2011 06:05 am
@smcmonagle,
smcmonagle wrote:
capitalism and nature have nothing to do with eachother.. for 1 "nature has been here a whole lot longer.
Capitalism is only a law of society.
Capitalism is simple recognition of the free interplay of the law of supply n demand.



smcmonagle wrote:
"Supply and demand" supply of what? gold? oil?
Yes, and anything else.


smcmonagle wrote:
we dont need it.
The laws of Nature continue to exist, regardless of anyone 's "need".





smcmonagle wrote:
demand of what.?
Demand of anything that becomes the subject matter of a contract of sale.






smcmonagle wrote:
>>we need minimal items.
ASSUMING that 's true: so what ???????



smcmonagle wrote:
1 food. and lets define. fruit, nuts, veg. thats it
U left out MEAT! R u nuts ???



smcmonagle wrote:
2. water. everywhere
3.love everywhere
bs on capitalism being laws of nature
That proves nothing.





David
smcmonagle
 
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Reply Tue 8 Nov, 2011 10:20 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
that is wrong>>>the laws of nature include the human needs and thats it.. the rest there after is bull ****
smcmonagle
 
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Reply Wed 9 Nov, 2011 11:37 am
@smcmonagle,
fine... meat but in much smaller quantities then is considered norm for any individual, and my original point was to stress the american cultures priorities. and what is truely important. When u start answering that question relative to other cultures, small or large, you see clearly the bull **** right in front of you.
You can begin to answer every single question with " really?" "who cares". And imagine posing that same question to individuals in what we call a "3rd world country", and you find even less importance to the answer
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smcmonagle
 
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Reply Wed 9 Nov, 2011 11:42 am
@smcmonagle,
I feel i open this conversation in hope to travel to an end answer of "what is important in life" or even more " what is the meaning of life". I carried on this convo with friends and it went down the enlightenment path, in which when you eliminate all that doesnt really matter you are left with one thing and we the american culture placed so many "things" in the way of enlightenment that we have become lost. If we were apart of a smaller "3rd world" culture and had limited "things" to distract us, we have a clearer picture on the meaning and would be focused only on "things" that matter
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 9 Nov, 2011 11:56 am
@smcmonagle,
smcmonagle wrote:
that is wrong>>>the laws of nature include the human needs and thats it.. the rest there after is bull ****
I stand by what I said.





David
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 9 Nov, 2011 12:05 pm
@smcmonagle,
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I feel i open this conversation in hope to travel to an end answer of "what is important in life" or even more " what is the meaning of life
"How is America broken?" is rather far from either of those topics.....you could always start a new thread if this on does not pan out the way you want. The trouble with starting with talking about how america does not work and expecting to move on is that this subject can easily go on for hundreds of pages, there is no need to divert into something else because America has a laundry list of major problems right now. We rarely talk about these problems in much detail, which only serves to point out yet another way that America is broken. Maybe your friends are shallow, and thus dont milk the subject of "how is America broken?"
smcmonagle
 
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Reply Wed 9 Nov, 2011 01:04 pm
@hawkeye10,
It just is quicker to skip " america being broken" and go straight to the source. Your right though, new thread. I had no intent in going into our political or economical situations. For some reason i mention america and culture and it naturally went that direction first
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 9 Nov, 2011 01:16 pm
@smcmonagle,
smcmonagle wrote:

It just is quicker to skip " america being broken" and go straight to the source. Your right though, new thread. I had no intent in going into our political or economical situations. For some reason i mention america and culture and it naturally went that direction first
Look at the daily news for instruction as to why. The nub of the problem is our spiritual crisis, but almost no one wants to talk about, or admit it.
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