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Are you still drinking apple juice?

 
 
Linkat
 
Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:12 am
So is Dr. Oz right? Or is the FDA? Are there unsafe levels of arsenic in our apple juice? Or is this a ratings booster for the good doctor.
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raprap
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:19 am
Yeppur--every day and I ain't dead (aak) yet (aak, aak)!
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:19 am
@Linkat,
back in the day, alchemists and other weird guys used to ingest arsenic to build up a tolerance against being poisoned by their friends.

they may actually be protecting us, strange as it may seem...
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:27 am
@Linkat,
Sure. Though I think a fresh apple is a better choice, given it is washed well.
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George
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:33 am
No. I'm out of rum.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:44 am
@George,
<laughing>
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:49 am
@Rockhead,
I guess that explains why I haven't been killed yet.
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 01:01 pm
I make a very real effort to consume nothing from China. The whole country is a toxic cesspool of pollution. You drive through the Chinese countryside and all you see is fields coated with coal dust from surrounding factories and people spitting on every surface to remove the black filth from their lungs. I think you can get perfectly good American apple juice and cider if you make a tiny effort. If we don't make an effort to buy our own apple products we will soon have no choice in the matter.
Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 01:39 pm
@Green Witch,
Actually I found it very difficult to find at least at the grocery store. I read through the entire label on one bottle (Motts) and could not find anything to indicate where the apple juice was from. Another was from about 5 different countries.

Unless you have the time to go to an apple orchard or something, I am not sure how to find. I spent 15 minutes or more reading through the various apple juice labels - and this was just apple juice so I can't imagine other stuff.

Although his particular study was not accurate - it does make you think - the particular concern is that China and other countries do not have the same rules in regard to pestides and that is the concern - how much and what is in these pestisides other countries are using.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 01:43 pm
@Green Witch,
I'm very much in agreement. I make a real effort not to bring any food stuffs into the house that are produced in China. There's a frozen veggie/fruit line called Europe's Best - labelling tells us "product of China".

Local fruits/veggies/cheese/meats as much as possible. It means a lot more time reading labels - if I can't figure it out, I don't buy it.
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 01:50 pm
@Linkat,
Buy organic. It's extremely difficult for China to be certified organic because of their practices. Apples are one of the most heavily sprayed crops (even in the US), so it's better all around. You can also contact companies like Motts and tell them you will only buy their products if they use USA apples. There is a movement to get large corporations to go back to our apples and if there is a demand they will listen. China has taken over almost 80% of the apple market and if we don't stop they will soon have 100%.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 01:53 pm
@Green Witch,
apple juice has already moved to the edge of my price window.

when it gets over $5 a gallon, I hafta opt out...
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djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 01:56 pm
luckily apple juice gives me heartburn, so i rarely drink it and if i do it's usually a locally or regionally pressed cider
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 02:02 pm
@Linkat,
I'm not sure you can find the country of origin. I'm pretty sure that apples grown in China, and juiced in, say, Washington state could be labeled "Made in USA". On most manufactored products, the country doing the final assembly gets the label.

I think they could at least specify the varity of apple used. Most apple juice is too sweet to drink, to me anyway.
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 02:09 pm
@roger,
excluding orange juice (which i rarely drink, the heartburn thing), i always cut any juice half and half with water
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 02:15 pm
@djjd62,
I can't do quantities of either.

or grapefruit. or tomato.

I live alone, so I take a swig when I'm thirsty. and nobody cares...
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 02:25 pm
@Linkat,
Quote:
What is Dihydrogen Monoxide?
Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.

For more detailed information, including precautions, disposal procedures and storage requirements, refer to one of the Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) available for DHMO:

Kemp Compliance & Safety MSDS for DHMO
Chem-Safe, Inc. MSDS for Dihydrogen Monoxide
Applied Petrochemical Research MSDS for Hydric Acid
Original DHMO.org Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for Dihydrogen Monoxide (html)

Should I be concerned about Dihydrogen Monoxide?
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What are some of the dangers associated with DHMO?
Each year, Dihydrogen Monoxide is a known causative component in many thousands of deaths and is a major contributor to millions upon millions of dollars in damage to property and the environment. Some of the known perils of Dihydrogen Monoxide are:


Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
Contributes to soil erosion.
Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.

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as an industrial solvent and coolant,
in nuclear power plants,
by the U.S. Navy in the propulsion systems of some older vessels,
by elite athletes to improve performance,
in the production of Styrofoam,
in biological and chemical weapons manufacture,
in the development of genetically engineering crops and animals,
as a spray-on fire suppressant and retardant,
in so-called "family planning" or "reproductive health" clinics,
as a major ingredient in many home-brewed bombs,
as a byproduct of hydrocarbon combustion in furnaces and air conditioning compressor operation,
in cult rituals,
by the Church of Scientology on their members and their members' families (although surprisingly, many members recently have contacted DHMO.org to vehemently deny such use),
by both the KKK and the NAACP during rallies and marches,
by members of Congress who are under investigation for financial corruption and inappropriate IM behavior,
by kids who play Beyblades,
by the clientele at a number of bath houses in New York City and San Francisco,
historically, in Hitler's death camps in Nazi Germany, and in prisons in Turkey, Serbia, Croatia, Libya, Iraq and Iran,
in World War II prison camps in Japan, and in prisons in China, for various forms of torture,
during many recent religious and ethnic wars in the Middle East,
by many terrorist organizations including al Qaeda,
in community swimming pools to maintain chemical balance,
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by software engineers, including those producing DICOM programmer APIs and other DICOM software tools including DICOM routers,
by popular computer science professors,
by the semi-divine King Bhumibol of Thailand and his many devoted young working girls in Bangkok,
by the British Chiropractic Association and the purveyors of the bogus treatments that the BCA promotes,
by commodities giant Trafigura in their well-publicized and widely-known toxic-waste dumping activities in Ivory Coast,
in animal research laboratories, and
in pesticide production and distribution.

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as an additive to food products, including jarred baby food and baby formula, and even in many soups, carbonated beverages and supposedly "all-natural" fruit juices
in cough medicines and other liquid pharmaceuticals,
in spray-on oven cleaners,
in shampoos, shaving creams, deodorants and numerous other bathroom products,
in bathtub bubble products marketed to children,
as a preservative in grocery store fresh produce sections,
in the production of beer by all the major beer distributors,
in the coffee available at major coffee houses in the US and abroad,
in Formula One race cars, although its use is regulated by the Formula One Racing Commission, and
as a target of ongoing NASA planetary and stellar research.



One of the most surprising facts recently revealed about Dihydrogen Monoxide contamination is in its use as a food and produce "decontaminant." Studies have shown that even after careful washing, food and produce that has been contaminated by DHMO remains tainted by DHMO.
PUNKEY
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 02:51 pm
I think Oz really referred to the WATER used in the processing of apple juice.

He has ruined an entire industry by not telling the story clearly!!

He should have focused on our WATER QUALITY, not on just the apple juice.
(so grape juice and cranberry juice are any better?)

Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 03:34 pm
@Green Witch,
Actually that is what I did - I bought organic. I try to and stock up when there is a sale as it is much more expensive.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 03:38 pm
@PUNKEY,
yes - he definately lost some creditability in alot of articles I have read by not being clear. He made apple juice the villian in a sense, when it should have been around the fact of lack of control of what is put in food and food products overseas especially countries like China where more products are coming from.
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