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present company included = including present day's writers?

 
 
Reply Tue 16 Aug, 2011 11:14 am

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Steven King’s On Writing

In the second foreword (there are three) to this book, Stephen King says:

“This is a short book because most books about writing are filled with bullshit. Fiction writers, present company included, don’t understand very much about what they do- no why it works when it’s good, not why it doesn’t when it’s bad. I figured the shorter the book, the less bullshit.”
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Reply Tue 16 Aug, 2011 11:19 am
No, he means, in this paticular case, himself included. When one says present company included, or present company excluded, one means those actually present. Mr. King is the only person present in this context, so he means himself.
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Reply Tue 16 Aug, 2011 06:03 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

No, he means, in this paticular case, himself included. When one says present company included, or present company excluded, one means those actually present. Mr. King is the only person present in this context, so he means himself.


An idiom new to me.

Thank you.

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