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NPR's Top 100 SF/Fantasy Books

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 04:43 pm
@sozobe,
Hitchikers Guide is a Radio 4 Comedy Series. That's how it should be appreciated. The book, TV series and film don't do the radio series justice.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 04:44 pm
@DrewDad,
I voted for this couple of weeks ago. Glad to say that most of my votes made it. The only one I remember not to make it was Oryx and Crake by Margaret Atwood.
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Irishk
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 04:47 pm
@Setanta,
Right, sorry, my search was for a format compatible with my ereader (either ebook or audiobook). I bought the physical book years ago when I had to do a paper on it in college and still have it.
djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 05:02 pm
@izzythepush,
so true, the radio work is great

ever hear the LP's
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 05:04 pm
@djjd62,
I don't know for certain, but I've got the CD set. Is it the same thing?
djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 05:06 pm
@DrewDad,
while i have no problem with the fact that Watchmen and The Sandman series are comic books, i wonder what others think of their addition to the list
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 05:07 pm
@djjd62,
I don't have a problem with the presence of graphic novels on the list though I haven't read these two books.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 05:08 pm
@Irishk,
Ah . . . i'm not "portable electronic media" literate . . .
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djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 05:12 pm
@izzythepush,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/HHGG_UKLP_covers.jpg

Quote:
LP album adaptations

The first four radio episodes were adapted for a new double LP, also entitled The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (appended with "Part One" for the subsequent Canadian release), first by mail-order only, and later into stores. The double LP and its sequel were originally released by Original Records in the United Kingdom in 1979 and 1980, with the catalogue numbers ORA042 and ORA054 respectively. They were first released by Hannibal Records in 1982 (as HNBL 2301 and HNBL 1307, respectively) in the United States and Canada, and later re-released in a slightly abridged edition by Simon & Schuster's Audioworks in the mid-1980s. Both were produced by Geoffrey Perkins and featured cover artwork by Hipgnosis.

The script in the first double LP very closely follows the first four radio episodes, although further cuts had to be made for reasons of timing. Despite this, other lines of dialogue that were indicated as having been cut when the original scripts from the radio series were eventually published can be heard in the LP version. The Simon & Schuster cassettes omit the Veet Voojagig narration, the cheerleader's speech as Deep Thought concludes its seven-and-one-half-million-year programme, and a few other lines from both sides of the second LP of the set.

Most of the original cast returned, except for Susan Sheridan, who was recording a voice for the character of Princess Eilonwy in The Black Cauldron for Walt Disney Pictures. Cindy Oswin voiced Trillian on all three LPs in her place. Other casting changes in the first double LP included Stephen Moore taking on the additional role of the barman, and Valentine Dyall as the voice of Deep Thought. Adams's voice can be heard making the Public Address announcements on Magrathea.

Due to copyrights, the music used during the first radio series was either replaced, or in the case of the title, it was re-recorded in a new arrangement. Composer Tim Souster did both duties (with Paddy Kingsland contributing music as well), and Souster's version of the theme was the version also used for the eventual television series.[28]

The sequel LP was released, singly, as The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Part Two: The Restaurant at the End of the Universe in the UK, and simply as The Restaurant at the End of the Universe in the USA. The script here mostly follows Fit the Fifth and Fit the Sixth, but includes a song by the backup band in the restaurant ("Reg Nullify and his Cataclysmic Combo"), and changes the Haggunenon sequence to "Disaster Area".

Due to a misunderstanding, the second record was released before being cut down in a "final edit" that Douglas Adams and Geoffrey Perkins both had intended to make. Perkins has said, "t is far too long on each side. It's just a rough cut. [...] I felt it was flabby, and I wanted to speed it up."[29] The Simon & Schuster Audioworks re-release of this LP was also abridged slightly from its original release. The scene with Ford Prefect and Hotblack Desiato's bodyguard is omitted.

Sales for the first double-LP release were primarily through mail order. Total sales reached over 60,000 units, with half of those being mail order, and the other half through retail outlets.[30] This is in spite of the facts that Original Records' warehouse ordered and stocked more copies than they were actually selling for quite some time, and that Paul Neil Milne Johnstone complained about his name and then-current address being included in the recording.[31] This was corrected for a later pressing of the double-LP by "cut[ting] up that part of the master tape and reassembl[ing] it in the wrong order".[32] The second LP release ("Part Two") also only sold a total of 60,000 units in the UK.[33] The distribution deals for the USA and Canada with Hannibal Records and Simon and Schuster were later negotiated by Douglas Adams and his agent, Ed Victor, after gaining full rights to the recordings from Original Records, which went bankrupt.[34]


i was a serious HHGTTG fan so i had to have them, long gone now sadly but i was able to find a torrent of them a few years back

dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 05:24 pm
@DrewDad,
I don't read much fantasy.....and I'd not have thought books like 1984 really counted as such....but I have read some of these.

I'd be interested to know which you do, or don't, belong there....whichever is easiest.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 05:25 pm
@djjd62,
No, I've not heard that. I was at school when it first came on the radio. Have you read Dirk Gently?
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 05:27 pm
@izzythepush,
True dat
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djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 05:29 pm
@izzythepush,
i've tried to get into them but they never really grabbed me, i loved The Meaning of Liff and am just starting The Salmon of Doubt, so i live in hope that i'll love DG eventually
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 05:32 pm
@izzythepush,
Dirk Gently is more entertaining than the hitchhiker's guide, certainly better written, and more clever--it's not shooting for the buffoonish humor of the guide. Still and all, it's not terribly impressive.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 05:35 pm
@djjd62,
BBC has made a one off, and they keep threatening to make a series.


I'm amazed that Philip K Dick's Android/Blade Runner got in, but not Ubik, Timothy Archer or Palmer Eldrich all of which were a lot better. No Barefoot In The Head by Aldiss either.
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Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2011 06:01 pm
@Linkat,
Funny thing you should mention Terry Pratchett. He was on NPR's 'Morning Edition' this a.m. advocating his latest cause celebre -- assisted suicide for terminally ill patients. The commentator interviewing him made it a point to note that Prachett has recently been diagnosed in the early stages of Alzheimer's.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2011 12:13 am
@Setanta,
Absolutely agree
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2011 12:46 am
@DrewDad,
#2 (Hitchhikers Guide) doesn't belong in the top 1000 list

#11 (Princess Bride) was a better movie than book

#12 (Wheel of Time) is rated far too highly. I'm not sure it makes it into the top 100, but it sure as hell doesn't make it into the top 50

#15 (Watchmen) What's the big deal? Maybe #15 in a list of top comics but not SF/Fantasy books

#18 (The Kingkiller Chronicles) Wow- Never heard of this one.

#19 (Slaughterhouse-Five) NPR had to put this one in the top 20. Way too highly rated.

#22 (The Handmaid's Tale) Would have been far more prophetic if it was relatedto Muslim, rather than Christian society

#23 (The Dark Tower Series) Yes if it had stopped mid-stream. Never has there been a more disappointing end to a series

#26 (Snow Crash) great choice, but The Diamond Age is better

#28 (Cat's Cradle) Here we go again -- H-A-C-K

#40 (Chronicles of Amber) a personal favorite but I'm not sure any but the first one belongs on this list and certainly Lord of Light deserves a higher rating.

#60 (Going Postal) Nothing by Terry Pratchett belongs on this list.

#98 (Perdido Street Station) belongs in the top 10

#100 (The Space Trilogy) belongs much higher than #100

What? No:

Greg Bear
Gregory Benford
Greg Egan
David Brin
Octavia Butler
Norman Spinard
Neal Asher
Julian May
Gordon Dahlquist
David Wingrove
Gene Wolfe
C.J Cherryh
Poul Anderson
R. Scott Bakker
Clark Ashton Smith
Lord Dunsany
Sergei Lukyaneko
Mervyn Peake
Lian Hearn
Gordon Dickson

To name but a few

One of these days I will find one of these lists with which I can agree more than 15%

This one is particularly feeble











rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2011 04:46 am
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

Another reminder that popularity does not automatically equate to quality.

Quality is subjective.

And besides, No. 1 "should" be, _The Last Dancer_ by Daniel Keys Moran. Smile
wandeljw
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2011 07:34 am
@rosborne979,
rosborne979 wrote:

DrewDad wrote:

Another reminder that popularity does not automatically equate to quality.

Quality is subjective.

And besides, No. 1 "should" be, _The Last Dancer_ by Daniel Keys Moran. Smile



The reason your favorite book didn't make the list is because the NPR "panel" did not put it on the original list of titles that listeners were allowed to select from. My favorite fantasy novel is The Philosopher's Stone by Colin Wilson. The NPR panel also failed to put that novel on their list for voting.
 

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