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Is this the beginning of the end of Rupert Murdoch's media empire?

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2012 04:50 am
@izzythepush,
Wow, that was very brazen of them!
Gloating about their own Lowest-common-denominator tactics!
("Here's What Page 3 Will Look Like Under Kinnock!" Surprised )
Shame on the Sun.
Shame on Murdoch.
That sort of "journalism" is the pits .... the bottom of the barrel!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2012 07:13 am
@msolga,
It is, but at the time it led people to believe that Labour could not get elected without Murdoch's support. I remember it well, one of the most depressing days in my life.
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2012 07:27 am
@izzythepush,
I can certainly understand that, izzy.
Very depressing that the voters apparently bought the Murdoch line in the Sun ... & voted accordingly.
Do you think the Leveson Enquiry & the NOTW fall-out (etc!) will diminish the influence of the Murdoch media in future elections in the UK? Now that there's been so much publicity about the wheeling & dealing behind the scenes?
McTag
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2012 07:39 am

Polly Toynbee is good in The Guardian today:

Murdoch and the Cameron entourage: a shameful tale laid out for all to see

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/26/murdoch-cameron-shameful-tale
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2012 07:53 am
@msolga,
I hope so.
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2012 04:31 pm
Quote:
Murdoch 'not fit' to run News Corp
Updated May 02, 2012 08:14:51/ABC News

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/2795436-3x4-340x453.jpg

A powerful British parliamentary committee has labelled Rupert Murdoch unfit to run a major company, and called on him to take responsibility for the culture of illegal phone hacking that has shaken News Corporation.

The long-awaited report by the Culture Select Committee did not find that Rupert and James Murdoch had misled MPs, but said the 81-year-old News Corp chief lacked credibility and his son James appeared incompetent.

"News International and its parent News Corporation exhibited wilful blindness, for which the companies' directors - including Rupert Murdoch and James Murdoch - should ultimately take responsibility," it said.


"Their instinct throughout, until it was too late, was to cover up rather than seek out wrongdoing and discipline the perpetrators.

"Even if there were a 'don't ask, don't tell' culture at News International, the whole affair demonstrates huge failings of corporate governance at the company and its parent, News Corporation.

"We conclude, therefore, that Rupert Murdoch is not a fit person to exercise the stewardship of a major international company."


However, the committee split on party lines, with outnumbered Conservative MPs unhappy with its explicit criticism of the Murdochs, criticism which has been led by Labour MP and committee member Tom Watson.

"We shared different views about the culpability of News Corporation, and the degree of culpability of James Murdoch in particular," Conservative committee member Louise Mensch said.

"It will be correctly seen as a partisan report, and we've lost a very great deal of its credibility, which is an enormous shame."

The cross-party committee, which approved the report by a majority of six to four, scolded News Corp for misleading the British parliament and trying to cover up illegal phone hacking.

"To put it politely, we've been led up the garden path by News International, but more importantly, so were the readers of its newspapers, the general public and the victims of phone hacking," Labour MP Paul Farrelly said.

News International and its parent News Corporation exhibited wilful blindness, for which the companies' directors -including Rupert Murdoch and James Murdoch - should ultimately take responsibility.
UK Commons culture, media and sport select committee

The committee said three News International employees had misled parliament: News of the World's former chief executive Les Hinton, who lied about payments to royal reporter Clive Goodman; former legal director Tom Crone; and former editor Colin Myler who could have stopped phone hacking as early as 2007, but paid out football union boss Gordon Taylor to cover up the practice.

In response, a News Corporation statement said the scathing British report had uncovered "hard truths".

"Hard truths have emerged from the Select Committee Report: that there was serious wrongdoing at the News of the World; that our response to the wrongdoing was too slow and too defensive; and that some of our employees misled the Select Committee in 2009," the statement read.

"We have already confronted and have acted on the failings documented in the report: we have conducted internal reviews of operations at newspapers in the United Kingdom and indeed around the world, far beyond anything asked of us by the Metropolitan Police.

"As we move forward, our goal is to make certain that in every corner of the globe, our company acts in a manner of which our 50,000 employees and hundreds of thousands of shareholders can be justly proud."

In an email to News International staff, Rupert Murdoch said the report made for difficult reading.

"But we have done the most difficult part, which has been to take a long, hard and honest look at our past mistakes," he said .... <cont>


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-01/murdoch-27unfit27-to-run-global-company/3983738
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2012 05:00 pm
@msolga,
Unfortunately it's a majority decision, the tories voted the other way, and are turning it into a party political issue. I guess they've got more to lose what with Cameron and Brooks being so cosy.
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2012 05:13 pm
@izzythepush,
That's not too surprising.
He's cosy with anyone who looks after his interests.
But I wouldn't imagine the Tories would win too many fans from the ranks of the British public by taking that stance.
Unless I've totally misread public sentiment?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2012 05:30 pm
@msolga,
Murdoch is running high politically, but I don't think the impact is quite as strong with the general population.

Cameron's priority is Jeremy Hunt, if he has to resign, Cameron is in the frame. There are council and mayoral elections on Thursday, the Tories are way down in the polls, and they're more concerned about keeping stuff under wraps until after then.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 2 May, 2012 10:44 pm
Who the **** do UK politicians think they are, presuming to pass judgement on who is fit to run a corporation? Politicians have an enormous amount of difficulty managing their day job competently, they best stay in their own lane and try to learn to handle that. Murdoch has a lot of faults, but he built this company out of nothing, there is no taking away that he has been one of the most competent media owners of all time. It is only the stockholders who have any say in how competent he is right now, and it appears that they believe in Murdoch.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2012 01:39 am
@hawkeye10,
We've got every ******* right to determine who's fit and proper. Who the **** do you think you are to tell us what we can and cannot do?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2012 01:48 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

We've got every ******* right to determine who's fit and proper. Who the **** do you think you are to tell us what we can and cannot do?


You brits can say what ever you want, but this makes your country look like a bunch of nit-wits. If some country thinks that Murdoch needs to be removed from running this corporation then they best get to work convicting him of a crime. Maybe the deciders would then believe the critics, maybe not.
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2012 01:49 am
@izzythepush,
Maybe he believes Fox News, courtesy of Murdoch, is real, "fit & proper" news, too? Wink

A real boon to the US.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2012 01:54 am
@msolga,
msolga wrote:

Maybe he believes Fox News, courtesy of Murdoch, is real, "fit & proper" news, too? Wink


Modern politicians have zero room to talk about anyone's moral fitness to lead, this condemnation of Murdoch from the House of Commons reads more like a Saturday Night Live skit than it does real life. It is fricking hilarious!
msolga
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2012 02:00 am
@msolga,
Meanwhile Murdoch owns 70% of Australia's print media (via deals with various Oz governments who believed it was best to stay on side with him! Or else.)
And he is not even an Australian citizen anymore!
If you saw the results of Murdoch's monopoly, in what is presented as news here by his newspapers, you might also come to the conclusion that he's "unfit" to exercise such influence.
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2012 02:03 am
@hawkeye10,
But do you believe Fox News is "fit & proper news", hawkeye?
You're evading the issue.
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2012 02:20 am
@hawkeye10,
BTW the Leveson Inquiry was a properly constituted body, appointed by the parliament.

This was not simply " a condemnation of Murdoch from the House of Commons".

You should read up more.

Quote:
Leveson Inquiry

The Leveson Inquiry[1] is an ongoing public inquiry into the culture, practices and ethics of the British press following the News International phone hacking scandal. On 6 July 2011, Prime Minister David Cameron announced to Parliament that an inquiry would be established under the Inquiries Act 2005 to further investigate the affair. On 13 July, Cameron appointed Lord Justice Leveson as Chairman of the inquiry, with a remit to look into the specific claims about phone hacking at the News of the World, the initial police inquiry and allegations of illicit payments to police by the press, and a second inquiry to review the general culture and ethics of the British media.[2]

Leveson appointed a panel of six assessors to work alongside him on the Inquiry and six barristers to be Counsel to Inquiry. ....<cont>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leveson_Inquiry
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2012 02:28 am
@hawkeye10,
The thing is, it's our country and we have every right to govern it the way we want to. The select committee is fully entitled to say who is fit and proper. Saying someone is not fit and proper is not the same thing as saying they've committed a crime. We don't have to hurry up and do anything.

Who gives a **** what the outside world thinks, it's our country and we decide who can head up organisations in our country.

Btw, I don't really think you're at all representative of the view outside the UK.
msolga
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2012 02:40 am
@izzythepush,
My mistake, Izzie.
The "unfit" statement was made by your parliamentary select committee.
Meanwhile, as you say, the Leveson Inquiry has not yet completed its deliberations.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2012 02:50 am
@msolga,
I think the Levenson report will be even more damning.
 

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