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What would Jesus do?

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2011 07:49 pm
@kuvasz,
I see no errors in what you are saying but please do realize that I often make mistakes!
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Krumple
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2011 09:22 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

I have been studying ethics for a couple of years now and I find it to be odd that Christians and atheist alike have very little interest in talking about morality!


Well let's face it, christians and atheists come to different conclusions about what makes up morality or how morality is determined. Any discussions tend to devolve into less than about morality and more into semantics or definitions.

I personally think the problem is that in one group, they think morality is objective and universal, and the other group sees morality as something subjective that needs to be constantly addressed and debated. I am in the later group and quite honestly it is difficult to always pin down every case.

Beyond that it really comes down to what the over all goal of the moral code is. I personally don't think it is wrong to do self harm if that is what is intended. Or why should someone else dictate that self harm is not something that another should take part of. Sure they could have empathy for the person who is self harming, but to demand that they not self harm is completely different. In fact I would say it is immoral to impose your personal morality onto anyone else even if it might be something that a majority are accepting. A lot of people do not like that but I think it is the closest to our reality that you can get. People don't like it because they want to push their morality onto others and force them to accept it.

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 08:05 am
Something to think about!


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YYScY79r0&feature=related
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 12:29 pm
@Krumple,
Very good reply in my opinion and I seem to agree with everything you said!
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 02:47 pm
@reasoning logic,
If you want to know what Jesus would do or say read the bible. It's all laid out there. Whether you accept it or not is a horse of another color.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 02:52 pm
@ragnel,
ragnel wrote:

There are a lot of atheists that contribute to the forum. The moment someone rises to the bait and discusses religion, we will hear from them - that is a given fact.

Personally I think there are a lot of Christians who recognise the difference between turning the other cheek and parading around with a note stuck on their face reading 'strike this one first'.

I am a Christian, but being human I am a sinner and I do not dare to judge anyone else. I have no doubt Jesus would treat all he met with compassion and love, but beyond that I could not speculate what He would 'do'.


When you said you dare not judge, exactly what do you mean? Do you mean you don't judge if something someone says or does is right or wrong according to scripture or do you mean you don't judge anything at all? Each and every day we have to make judgments and discernments as to right and wrong, etc. I really try not to assume things so that is why I am asking you about this.

There is a big diffrence in our discerning what is right and wrong per scripture but unfortunately, so many people take the word JUDGE to mean they pretty much can toss that person into hell all by themselves and that is NOT what scripture means by judging.

It's nice to meet you ragnel. I have to ask are you a redhead? I am and I love your avatar pic btw.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 02:55 pm
@kuvasz,
A noble cause kuvasz. But the context of that is just a bit different. In the days of Christ when someone was in prison the only way they were going to survive was if someone brought them food, water, etc. The jailers didn't feed and clothe the prisoners. Many died from starvation, etc. But, I still think visiting people in jail is noble.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 03:08 pm
@Arella Mae,
Arella Mae wrote:

If you want to know what Jesus would do or say read the bible. It's all laid out there. Whether you accept it or not is a horse of another color.


I have read the bible more than most people I know!
I have used a strong's exhausted concordance to understand the Greek and Hebrew meaning of the words in the bible that I read from.{ the kings James version} Even though I have thousands of hours reading the bible not including the many other studies that I have outside of the bible, I am certain that I do not know it correctly nor does anyone else.

It was the philosophy that I read in the bible that lead me to realize that God does not love me any more than anyone else that has a different bible than me {like the Mormons and or any other beliefs that are not Abrahamic}
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 04:10 pm
@Arella Mae,
What I am most interested in is what you think Jesus would do and what you teach your children and others.

What do you teach them about these issues?

boarders
usury
war
wages
and any other thing that you would like to share.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 06:26 pm
@reasoning logic,
I don't have any children.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 06:33 pm
@Arella Mae,
That can be a blessing some times but not completely. Regardless I hope that you have a fulfilled life!
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 06:35 pm
@Arella Mae,
What do you teach or share with others?

What do you teach others about these issues?

boarders
usury
war
wages
and anything else that you would like to share.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 08:10 pm
@reasoning logic,
I rarely find myself in discussions about your topics.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 08:12 pm
@Arella Mae,
Don't feel so alone because I think most of us share your reply!
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jul, 2011 11:10 am
It's my understanding that "Jesus" is the name of the actual man who taught us the most important things we need to know, but normally ignore. "Christ" is the title of the fictitious role attributed to him by The Church (Paul).
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