Men are better then women?

About 98% of celebrities are arseholes. They're all contributing to the decline in moral value. Most are overpaid, undertalented, self indulgent cocksuckers.

Britney has apparently applied for an annulment the day after her wedding. What a typical sick joke.

Didn't even take a day, Wilso. Just a few hours. And it wasn't a serious wedding...torn jeans, etc. Just "a joke carried too far," according to her publicist. There were reports of heavy drinking. I suspect she realized the joke wasn't funny as soon as she woke up.

Perhaps today is not the best day to defend Britney against declining moral values, BlueMonkey.

The point was missed and yet proven all at the same time.

sagging record sales makes publisists and managers tell their gravy trains to do all sorts of stupid things...

Personally, I find it amusing that Britney married Jason Alexander...a wedding night visual I don't need (lol, I know it's not really George from Sienfeld). Publicist schmublicist, the dude most likely got the goods without the lifelong commitment. Sweet...

I didn't miss the point, BlueMonkey. Did you miss mine?

Nobody enjoys a good laugh more than I do. Ask around here. But, marriage is not something to be treated as a joke. Besides being a serious legal commitment, it is a serious moral commitment as well. To the extent that young girls consider her a role model, Britney may well have contributed to "declining moral values" by her actions this weekend. And in my mind, that does qualify as "imparting a negative image to children."

That is not to say that the male pop stars mentioned in the letter above are somehow above such reproach because they are male. That is preposterous. I simply meant what I said...that in light of the headlines, today is not a good day to be defending Britney.

And I simply ment that that was not what I was doing. You missed my point. I got yours. The fact of the matter is you can't blame people for decline in moral anything. You can blame everyone who folows their lead. They are dumb enough to follow they are at blame. I don't think any one person or a few entertainers can be blamed. It is socity itself that is to blame.

Take this marrige thing - had anyone not seen it or reported on it no one would know. That is not Britney's fault. Yes marrige is so not funny -whatver. The deal is that certian people can pick their noes and they will be in the headlines the next day. No one is a role model and if anyone takes it upon themselves to say there is they are so lame. No one is perfect. Certian actions can be role model like but there is no such thing as a role model. None.

So Britney isn't never was, never should have been. And I am not defending her actions as you thought twice, now. I am only stating that she gets chastized for doing anything. And the funny thing is, is everyone not wanting her to do it is making her want to do it. The best soultion to this problem is to ignore her and whatever she does. Spotlighting her actions only makes the next one that more newsworthy.

Got me this time.

How did anyone who got breast implants at the age of sixteen ever get held as a role model in the first place?

I don't believe in role models and I've always taught my son not to either. People are people and if they screw up no matter what the gender, I feel the same. I think all parents should teach their kids not to idolize people because we all put our pants on one leg at a time and anyone who thinks they are better than others simply because they are famous wouldn't get the time of day from me or my son.

Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition.

dys- You have no idea how it cheers me to see your fuzzy face on A2K!

fuzzy?

dys- Is that stuff on your chops fur?

Okay, okay, I get it.

I'm raising my son not to look up to celebrities, too. However, no matter how much you don't like the concept of "role models," they do exist. Young people are impressionable, and they do look up to older (but alas, sometimes NOT wiser) people to understand what maturity means. Kids take their clues from the world around them...ideally responsible family members, teachers and friends. But also from entertainment sources as well, because that is also part of their world. My best friend's 11-yr.-old daughter has had to be told many times that sexy, revealing clothing is not appropriate, no matter what she sees kids wearing on TV. Certainly it is the parents' job to correct any wrong impressions they pick up, but to say that celebrities do not have an impact is simply wishful thinking. Why else would all the preteen girls want Mary-Kate and Ashley clothes? Converse shoes? Think they're too fat when they're normal weight? Etc., etc. The impact is there.

And the celebrities ask for it. They want the fame. They hire publicists to make sure their every move is covered. It increases their value. And they get very nervous when the papparazzi (and crowds)don't show up. As a society, we love this. Look at how many People magazines are sold! Look at the ratings for ET! Like it or not, we've all contributed to this.

Saying it shouldn't be so won't erase the problem. We need to provide young people with GOOD role models. And that starts with their own parents.

I'll second that :-D

I hate that. It is so lame and over said that it has no value anymore. None. It is almost laughable. Here we have a postman, would you got to his house and give him your mail? How about a college professor who is relaxing in his bed at three in the morning would you call him up and ask him what grade you got on your essay? How about standing outside a girls house with a camera in her bushes waiting for her to come out or taking pictures of her through her window (she is a nobody)? Those are things people don't do. Normal people. They wouldn't bother the postman at home. They wouldn't call up a professor at 3 a.m. to get a grade and they wouldn't stand in the bushes taking pictures of an exgirlfriend. You expect, just because they chose a profession, that they all want to work 24/7. No one does. They are human. They want to go and eat at a restaraunt without having some screaming moron running up to them for an autograph or hounded by reporters because they decided to dress down and not comb their hair. They don't work all day long. And just because they are famous does not mean the deserve the treatment they get.

That is such a jealous thing to say. People who don't have it like to say that, "They asked for it, they wanted the life they should have to deal with all the pictures and prodding in their private life." Ha. No one in this world loves that. lol. Reality check. Some may want it to be come more famous, but no one wants every faccite of their life touched upon.

And good parents do not blame the world for their children's misshapes. It is not the worlds job to handle your children it is your job. You brought them here you have to raise them. Children are impresionable but the parents, if they spend enough time with them, will over power whatever it is their children see. It is bad parenting to blame anyone but yourself for the wrongs your child commits. This is why the first five years are so critical in rasing a child. If you slack off then oh well you send them to school they start picking up things you never imagined. But if the first five years are done correctly then there will be a sense of smartness that will know what is right and wrong.

Role models, they are useless. I mean there is not one person in this world that anyone should try to follow. There are certain situations that a "role model" type goes through and does correctly and that should be followed, but I know not everything someone does is worth following.

kobe Bryant - some thought he was a good role model and look what he did. Even if he didn't rape her he made a very stupid mistake. Very stupid. If there was such a thing as a role model they wouldn't make mistakes. None. Otherwise they aren't worth copying if they do.

I agree, but I think it's critical throughout their whole childhood and not just until 5. I found it much harder to get through to my son when he started school because I had to compete with the peer pressure and that was the hardest part for me. Peer pressure is a very powerful thing and no matter how involved a parent is, the child can easily shut them out. It's easy to blame the parents for their children taking the wrong path, but it's not that cut and dry. Children have a mind of their own and when they reach a certain age you never know what road they will decide to take. I know a lot of parents don't even bother to take the time out for their kids, but I also know many who have where their kids still made the choice to follow their own path and rebelled against their parents for trying to interfere. I found it extremely difficult to get through to my son when he was in public school, but I decided to home school him 3 years ago and it's been a breeze since then. There are wonderful parents out there who get a bad rap simply because their kids refused to follow their lead and it's just not fair to point fingers when kids are human after all and have minds of their own. As much as we'd all love to be able to mold our kids into what we want, it just doesn't work that way.

Hear, hear, Montana!!!

My parents did an excellent job of parenting. My sister and I both turned out to be sane, responsible adults. However, my brother, raised with the same standards and expectations, rejected them. His life has not turned out very well. My parents beat themselves up for years, but it wasn't their fault that he made bad choices. They did the best they could do. That's all any of us can do. The rest is up to our kids. We know that, and that is why we worry.