Does anyone know the name of this part of Mozart's opera "Cosi fan tutte"?

Aha....okay, dude.

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Hi again. First I have to thank you guys for trying to help. I have found this new link of the same piece (Rondo Veneziano) so let me know about visibility of this clip in your countries. Here is the link:

http://www.4shared.com/audio/Yyin8LmF/Rond_Veneziano_-_The_genius_of.html

Thanks in advance

Thanks for the link and suggestion. It's not among arias listed in that channel. I am actyally looking for the name of that Mozart's instrumental piece from opera Cosi fan tutte posted in a link above (if you can see the video clip in your country).

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I can see it (U.S.) but I'm not the right person to help answer the question. Still, this is progress..

I have got the right answer on some other forum. It is aria Voi che sapete (The Marriage Of Figaro). I was misled by Rondo Veneziano's incorrect naming of this piece (Cosi fan tutte) so I went in the wrong direction, looking for the name of this tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYMqxVyoFE&feature=player_embedded

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To you too.. glad you found the answer.

I don't think the mystery is solved yet. "Voi che sapete" doesn't contain any of the music featured on the original audio clip you posted.

The titling of the tracks on this Rondo Veneziano album is pretty thoroughly awry. Everything that is listed as coming from an opera is actually from an instrumental piece, and vice versa. Track 2, for example, is entitled "Don Giovanni" but the music is from the 40th Symphony in G Minor. Track 4 is entitled "Eine kleine Nachtmusik" but the music is the overture to Marriage of Figaro. Track 7, alleging to be from the Jupiter symphony, is the Queen of the Night's aria from Magic Flute. And Track 9, alleging to be from Magic Flute, is from "Eine kleine Nachtmusik."

The audio clip you're inquiring about sounds like a piano concerto, or possibly a chamber piece with piano. I've listened through a couple of Mozart piano concertos but have not come across the music yet. I'll let you know if I find it...

Nice catch.

I understand what you are trying to say. Your arguments show that Rondo Veneziano cannot be taken seriously as a credible performers of classical music. Well, you are right. They are just the group of talented musicians who are playing rearranged, commercialised versions of classical masterpieces without paying too much attention to correct naming of their pieces. They even have addition of modern instruments such as synthesizer, bass guitar and drums. However, I have compared music from the posted Rondo Veneziano clip with aria "Voi che sapete" and I am pretty much sure that it is the same melody. Maybe that clip sounds to you like a piano concerto because they rearranged the original piece/aria in order to sound that way. It's just their style and way of musical expression. I would be really grateful If you would prove me wrong regarding the name of this piece. Thanks for your help in solving this "musical enigma".

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The excerpt from the Rondo Veneziano clip begins with a melody on the fifth scale degree descending, after a scalar passage and a trill, to the same degree an octave below. This is repeated and then followed by a rising arpeggio on the subdominant in first inversion and a rising arpeggio on the tonic in second inversion.

There's no equivalent passage in "Voi che sapete" (whose melody begins on the first scale degree, not the fifth, and doesn't feature any rising arpeggios at any point). That can't be explained by a simple change in arrangement; for this to be the same piece, they would had to have rewritten the melody entirely (not t0 mention the accompaniment, which is also different), which effectively means it's not the same piece anymore. If you can point out where in the YouTube clip you hear those same melodic fragments, I can dig out my Figaro score and verify that it's not the same music.

Mystery solved: it's an arrangement (which explains why I thought it was a piano concerto) of Mozart's 10th Piano Sonata in C Major, first movement.

O.k. You were right and I have to correct myself. The leitmotif of both pieces is the same but Rondo Veneziano went further with mixing other, classical tunes into this piece ( among them is this one that you have posted).
Here are the both links:

http://www.4shared.com/audio/Yyin8LmF/Rond_Veneziano_-_The_genius_of.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYMqxVyoFE&feature=player_embedded

I have to admit that I am not such an expert in classical music especially regarding those technical elements that you have mentioned. I am just a casual fan of this kind of music. Thank you very much for clearing this thing up for me.

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I see. That would explain why the Rondo Veneziano clip begins with a few trills leading into the actual theme from the piano sonata; those trills don't correspond to the score of the piano sonata. The "medley" idea is a clever one... reminds me of this:


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Ha ha ha. What a mish mash of music.
Shapeless, since you are the expert in classical music, can you help me identify this piece of (probably) classical music. It's actually performed by Paul Mauriat (Minuetto) but it sounds like it was based on another classical piece (18th century style - late baroque or classicism). It could be Mauriat's original work but I am not so sure. I couldn't find any information so far, about origins of this piece (who is author / composer). Here are the 2 links for this piece in a case that some of them are not visible in some countries:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGfinKuMmR8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q6aRTHKD9w

Thanks in advance

Hmm... it doesn't sound familiar to me but I can do a bit of research and see if I can locate it. It seems odd to me that it's called "Minuetto" even though it's in 4/4 time; I've never heard of a minuet that wasn't in triple meter. It's not unheard of for someone to rewrite a triple meter piece into duple, but it's quite rare.

Anyway, let me do some snooping and I'll let you know if I turn up anything. I don't suppose you know what Mauriat album this piece came from originally?

Well, it's possible that we have the same Rondo Veneziano case here (incorrect naming of the piece).
Here are the Paul Mauriat's releases where this piece can be found:

2006. Le Couturier Musical

compilations (best of type)

1997. Digital Best
1998. Retrospective
1998. Super Best 20
2004. Definitive Collection
2005. Super Best 21
2006. Best Selection, Vol. 1
2006. Diamond Best

compilations (various artists type)

2003. Again II

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