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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 02:04 pm
The Daily Star
Thursday, February 3, 2011

Govt asked to explain failure to stop fatwa

High Court gives Shariatpur admin 15 days to tell
why it could not save life of 14-year-old rape victim


The High Court yesterday ordered district officials
in Shariatpur to explain why they failed to protect
14-year-old rape victim Hena from being
whipped to death as per
a fatwa on Monday.

The deputy commissioner, the superintendent of
police of Shariatpur and the thana nirbahi officer
of Naria upazila -- where the incident took
place--will have to report to the HC in 15 days
how it happened although the court (HC) had
eight months ago declared fatwa illegal and a
punishable offence.

In a suo moto rule, the HC directed them also to
report what steps they have taken in this regard.

An HC bench comprised of Justice AHM
Shamsuddin Chowdhury Manik and Justice Sheikh
Md Zakir Hossain issued the rule following press
reports on the killing of Hena.

The reports said Hena was raped by her
40-year-old relative Mahbub on Sunday. Next day,
a fatwa was announced at a village arbitration
that she must be given 100 lashes.
She fell unconscious after nearly 80 lashes.

Fatally injured Hena was rushed to Naria health
complex where she succumbed to her injuries.

Supreme Court lawyer Seema Zahur yesterday
placed before the HC bench a press report on the
incident on behalf of Bangladesh National Women
Lawyers Association.

Meanwhile, another HC bench yesterday directed
the law enforcement agencies to submit a report
to it within three weeks on what steps have been
taken following this incident in the light of its
judgement on extra-judicial punishment.

The bench comprised of Justice Syed Mahmud
Hossain and Justice Nazrul Islam Talukder also
ordered the information ministry to run a media
campaign to create awareness among people
against extra-judicial punishment.

The bench headed by Justice Syed Mahmud
Hossain on July 8 last year delivered the verdict
declaring illegal all kinds of extra-judicial
punishment including those in the name of fatwa
at local arbitrations.

Following three writ petitions, the court directed
the authorities concerned to take punitive action
against people involved in enforcing fatwa against women.

It also observed that infliction of brutal punishment
including caning, whipping and beating at local
salish [arbitration] by persons devoid of judicial
authority constitutes violation of the constitutional rights.

Barristers Rabia Bhuiyan, Sara Hossain and
Mahbub Shafique, and advocate KM Hafizul Alam,
lawyers for the writ petitioners, yesterday placed
the judgement to the bench following the incident involving Hena.

Ain O Salish Kendra (ASK), a human rights watchdog,
expressed deep concern and shock yesterday at
the killing of teenage rape victim Hena.

It demanded punitive action against those who
enforced fatwa concerning her.

The ASK called upon the government to take
effective steps to stop recurrence of such incidents.

[Emfasis has been added by David.]
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 02:23 pm

I gave very little thawt to the Moslems before 9/11/1 -- almost none at all.
I 'd see them kneeling to the East at airports sometimes, just odd.

Regardless of 9/11/1, even if it had not happened,
atrocities like this, whipping a girl to death who had gotten raped,
for NO REASON, r outrageous and at least call the attention.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 03:06 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
This is awfully stupid, David.

The event in this story is obviously horrible. It is an atrocity and the individuals involved are barbaric. But this would be true even if the people who killed this girl were Jews, Christians or Buddhists.

It is not that difficult to find similar atrocities committed by Christians, who after all are still murdering children who are accused of being witches.

Murder is Murder. I don't think it is right to claim that murder by Christians or Jews or Buddhists is any less barbaric.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 04:52 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
This is awfully stupid, David.
I thawt it was too, but thay did it anyway.




maxdancona wrote:
The event in this story is obviously horrible. It is an atrocity and the individuals involved are barbaric. But this would be true even if the people who killed this girl were Jews, Christians or Buddhists.
I was implying that Christians or Jews
woud remain innocent of such things.





maxdancona wrote:
It is not that difficult to find similar atrocities committed by Christians,
who after all are still murdering children who are accused of being witches.
WHAT? Where & when ?????



maxdancona wrote:
Murder is Murder.
I think that 's an oversimplification.






maxdancona wrote:
I don't think it is right to claim that murder by Christians
or Jews or Buddhists is any less barbaric.
To tell u the truth,
I have never heard of any Christians or Jews
whipping any girl to death for getting raped.
Correct me if I am rong.
I don't know much about Buddhists,
nor who thay whip.





David
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 08:49 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
The nine-year-old boy lay on a bloodstained hospital sheet crawling with ants, staring blindly at the wall.

His family pastor had accused him of being a witch, and his father then tried to force acid down his throat as an exorcism. It spilled as he struggled, burning away his face and eyes. The emaciated boy barely had strength left to whisper the name of the church that had denounced him — Mount Zion Lighthouse.

A month later, he died.


http://richarddawkins.net/articles/4470
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 08:51 pm
@maxdancona,
Quote:
Mary was found by a British charity worker and today lives at a refuge in Akwa Ibom province with 150 other children who have been branded witches, blamed for all their family's woes, and abandoned. Before being pushed out of their homes many were beaten or slashed with knives, thrown onto fires, or had acid poured over them as a punishment or in an attempt to make them "confess" to being possessed. In one horrific case, a young girl called Uma had a three-inch nail driven into her skull.

Yet Mary and the others at the shelter are the lucky ones for they, at least, are alive. Many of those branded "child-witches" are murdered - hacked to death with machetes, poisoned, drowned, or buried alive in an attempt to drive Satan out of their soul.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/3407882/Child-witches-of-Nigeria-seek-refuge.html

It would be wrong to blame these barbaric acts on Christians. Don't you agree?
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Foofie
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 09:19 pm
Two wrongs do not make a right!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 09:30 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Quote:
The nine-year-old boy lay on a bloodstained hospital sheet crawling with ants, staring blindly at the wall.

His family pastor had accused him of being a witch, and his father then tried to force acid down his throat as an exorcism. It spilled as he struggled, burning away his face and eyes. The emaciated boy barely had strength left to whisper the name of the church that had denounced him — Mount Zion Lighthouse.

A month later, he died.


http://richarddawkins.net/articles/4470

As I suspected,
your link shows that this incident involved africans in africa.
That is not fair nor reasonable
to tie them in with the universe of Christians,
as a whole, as if there were no distinctions to this subset.





David
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 09:39 pm
@Foofie,
You are missing the point Foofie. I wasn't saying that either act was wrong. I am saying that David's hatred is unjustified.

David wants to use this horrible story to justify his hatred of Muslims. That is, he is picking a particularly barbaric example that was committed by to people in one place, and he wants to defame all Muslims. I am only pointing out that equally barbaric acts are committed by Christians and Buddhists etc.

Hatred of Jews and Hindus and Catholics and Mormons has been common. In each case people come up with stories of barbaric acts to explain why Jews or Hindus or Catholics or Mormons are particularly worthy of scorn or abuse.

Hatred isn't justified by barbaric anecdotes.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 09:57 pm
@maxdancona,
Max my post does not express "hatred" for the Moslems,
as much as it expresses resentment for 9/11
and confidence that thay will continue
in an effort to render WORSE future 9/11s, if thay possibly CAN.

I also wanted to express contempt
for the Moslems for 9/11 and for their future plans,
but not "hatred."

If it were not for their 9/11 sneak attacks,
I woud not think of Moslems at all.

U falsely characterized and u misrepresented my post; shame on u.





David
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 10:15 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:

I also wanted to express contempt
for the Moslems for 9/11 and for their future plans,
but not "hatred."


The "Moslems" are not responsible for 9/11 any more than The Christians are responsible for the Bosnian Genocide.

The attacks on 9/11 were committed by a small group of fanatics the vast majority of Muslims quickly and strongly condemned the attacks. You will doubtless point out that there were some Muslims who supported the attack, but of course, there are some Christians who still support attacks attacks on Jews and Witches and Homosexuals.

Your contempt for the attackers is justified. Your contempt for people who supported or celebrated the attacks is justified.

Your "contempt" for the hundreds of millions of Muslims who had nothing to do with the attacks and who were just as horrified by the terrorist attacks as you is unjustified.

There were Muslim rescue workers who risked (and gave) their lives saving lives on 9/11.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 10:33 pm
@maxdancona,
David wrote:
I also wanted to express contempt
for the Moslems for 9/11 and for their future plans,
but not "hatred."
maxdancona wrote:
The "Moslems" are not responsible for 9/11 any more than The Christians
are responsible for the Bosnian Genocide.
The local Christians
(i.e., the Serbians) certainly WERE responsible for that genocide.
I felt very anti-Christian in those days;
tempted to send the Bosnians or the Croatians some guns, that Bush prohibited.


maxdancona wrote:
The attacks on 9/11 were committed by a small group of fanatics the vast majority of Muslims quickly and strongly condemned the attacks.
I don 't remember THAT.
I remember them exultantly dancing in the streets on 9/11/1.



maxdancona wrote:
You will doubtless point out that there were some Muslims who supported the attack,
Like ALL of the hijackers, for example;
not many Methodists nor Lutherans among them.





maxdancona wrote:
there are some Christians who still support attacks
attacks on Jews and Witches and Homosexuals.
I can 't deny that.




maxdancona wrote:
Your contempt for the attackers is justified. Your contempt for people who supported or celebrated the attacks is justified.




maxdancona wrote:
Your "contempt" for the hundreds of millions of Muslims who had nothing to do with the attacks and who were just as horrified by the terrorist attacks as you is unjustified.
Logically, I have to admit
that (if there be any inhabitants of that class).






maxdancona wrote:
There were Muslim rescue workers who risked (and gave) their lives saving lives on 9/11.
I doubt THAT!
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Ceili
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 10:40 pm
Check out how many kids have died in the states because of cults, or parents refusing kids meds or blood or took part in exorcisms. There are stupid/ignorant people everywhere.
Many victims of 911 were muslims and I remember a couple of interviews with Muslim people who were part of the recovery and work crews related to the world trade centre.
Again, ignorance is everywhere...
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