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Does life exist owing to mutual help or warring?

 
 
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2011 10:58 pm
@farmerman,
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So have me commited.
Or possibly even COMMITTED. Tempting, but I would be lost without you, FM. You are my Moriarty. Please stay safe and well.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 11:39 am
I can't see a description of Man's social evolution without BOTH. Hobbes acknowledged the reality of Man's need for cooperation via society and Nietzsche and Marx recognized the forces leading to competition and struggle. They are all correct--up to a point.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 07:52 pm
@JLNobody,
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They are all correct--up to a point.
Would that be the point of a knife wherein survival takes over and war begins ?
JLNobody
 
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Reply Mon 7 Feb, 2011 11:25 pm
@Ionus,
You make a point.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Mon 7 Feb, 2011 11:25 pm
@Ionus,
You make a point.
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bewildered
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 02:24 am
I believe the "general" situation in the natural world is that all rocks, bacteria, plants, and animals help some others rather than battle one another. If human beings violate this general situation, the natural world will be very sensitive to human greed and will counter attack, thus endangering human lives. Warring mentality leads to hells, not Heaven.
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 04:15 am
Can you explain how rocks help one another?
wayne
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 05:13 am
Isn't it interesting how the wildebeest helps the lion.
I especially like being helped by a lobster.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 05:25 am
I prefer being helped by beef cattle, but i know what you mean.
wayne
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 05:36 am
@Setanta,
Aah we've solved it, mutual help by lobsters and beef cattle.
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wayne
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 05:38 am
@Setanta,
Aah we've solved it, mutual help by lobsters and beef cattle.
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 05:57 am
@wayne,
I believe that may be the source of yer grammas insisting that you should
"Have another helpin of possum there boy"
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 01:38 pm
@bewildered,
bewildered wrote:
I believe the "general" situation in the natural world is that all rocks, bacteria, plants, and animals help some others rather than battle one another. If human beings violate this general situation, the natural world will be very sensitive to human greed and will counter attack, thus endangering human lives. Warring mentality leads to hells, not Heaven.

Are you trying to say that unlike other creatures, human behavior is discordant with nature and that we need to change our behavior to be more like other animals?
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 07:08 pm
@Setanta,
They clash together and form planets and moons and life given enough time...
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bewildered
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 09:05 pm
@rosborne979,
"......change our behavior to be more like other animals"
Not exactly, but many human beings' behavior/sins/mentality are worse than those of animals. That's why most of other animals do not go to hell while 90% of human beings in history go to hell.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 09:11 pm
@bewildered,
What happens to the other unlucky 10%?
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wayne
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 06:51 am
@bewildered,
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90% of human beings in history go to hell.


Wow, that's some amazing info, from the office of vital statistics I presume.
Or could it be.................. Satan?
rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 09:20 am
@bewildered,
bewildered wrote:

"......change our behavior to be more like other animals"
Not exactly, but many human beings' behavior/sins/mentality are worse than those of animals.

Why is that? Simply because we have the capacity to pass judgement on our own actions?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 07:27 pm
@bewildered,
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90% of human beings in history go to hell
Hey ! Leave my family out of this !
bewildered
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 09:06 pm
@wayne,
I have a more exact figure. Compiled by gods. Written directly by God.
 

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