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Does life exist owing to mutual help or warring?

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bewildered
 
Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2011 03:46 am
Which is the fact of life for plants/animals, mutual help or warring?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2011 03:54 am
Why do you assume that it is all one or the other?
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2011 04:42 am
@bewildered,
Both, and sometimes neither.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2011 08:52 am
@rosborne979,
sometimes it just sits there and stuff happens all around it.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2011 10:57 am
@bewildered,
bewildered wrote:

Which is the fact of life for plants/animals, mutual help or warring?

Or, in philosophic terms, who's right: Prince Kropotkin or Herbert Spencer?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2011 11:54 am
Oooo . . . i'm inspired now . . .

It was Hobbes . . .

During the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that conditions called war; and such a war, as if of every man, against every man.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2011 02:14 pm
@Setanta,
at the molecular level its subsume or link.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2011 02:38 pm
Wait a minnit . . . you talkin' about bondage and discipline vs. straight sex?
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2011 02:57 pm
oh my, oh my...Amazone forest wilderness rampage...
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2011 05:19 pm
@Setanta,
yep, ionic, collateral, and Hydrogen bondage.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2011 06:05 pm
@farmerman,
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yep, ionic, COVALENT, and Hydrogen bondage.
. I swear Im goin senile.
bewildered
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2011 05:43 am
A professor said there is no god of love, since he sees warring everywhere from the molecular level to the gigantic level. For example, he said black walnut tree roots send out toxic chemicals to weed out almost all other plants near them.

I know no man can live without eating other plants/animals.

I think no plants/animals go extinct because of the toxic chemicals of black walnut trees. Every plant/animal benifit other plants/animals. Doesn't that show mutal help as a rule of life?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2011 06:20 am
@farmerman,
Goin' ?
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2011 06:40 am
@Setanta,
I was watching the Jamie Foxx movie "Collateral DAmage" at the same time I was writing. So have me commited.
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2011 07:01 am
@farmerman,
Would i be able to make anything out of it?
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wayne
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2011 07:15 am
@farmerman,
Good movie, Collateral, no damage.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2011 07:24 am
@bewildered,
Warring came first. Multi-cell creatures invented mutual help.
bewildered
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2011 09:30 pm
@Ionus,
I cannot edit my questions now, but I should have phrased my question as:
Does life exist owing to mutual help or warring?
Which is the rule of life for plants/animals, mutual help or warring?
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2011 10:14 pm
@bewildered,
Mutual help is just a more sophisticated form of warring against other groups...its a circular ever larger process of cycles...

The problem is rather about evolution of systems...
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Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2011 10:56 pm
@bewildered,
The first requirement for life is shelter. Then war to see who will own the shelter.
Fil Albuquerque raises a good point of view :
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Mutual help is just a more sophisticated form of warring against other groups
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