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Does Dawkins believe in aliens?

 
 
Smoke34
 
Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 10:30 am
They say that Dawkins started believing in aliens and stopped being darwinist? Is it true?
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Ragman
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 10:38 am
@Smoke34,
who is dawkins?

What is this about aliens? This makes no sense whatsover?
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Smoke34
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 11:09 am
Richard Dawkins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins
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Ragman
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 11:30 am
@Smoke34,
Based on your own link and the content therein, there's no indication whatsoever that he refutes Darwinism or in his acceptance of any proof of aliens.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 11:41 am
Is that relevant?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 12:04 pm
@Smoke34,
Smoke34 wrote:
They say that Dawkins started believing in aliens and stopped being darwinist? Is it true?

No and no. Dawkins never "started" believing in aliens. He always believed that their existence is more likely than not, given the sheer number of solar systems in the universe where intelligent life could evolve. Moreover, Dawkins never stopped being a Darwinist, as you might guess from the title of his latest book: The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution.

Judging by a Google search for the two words "Dawkins aliens", your story goes back to Creationist quote mining. Dawkins doesn't think it likely that life on Earth was seeded by aliens. He just bends over backwards to be receptive to the possibility, only to strengthen his point that even if the story was true, it would be a complement to the evolution story, not an alternative. Alien seeding only begs the next question: How did the aliens come to be? Even if they, too, were seeded by other aliens still, Dawkins thinks you ultimately have to start with a life form that evolved.

I hope this clarifies Dawkins's position for you.

UPDATE: Here's Dawkins's own smackdown of the story. It is aptly titled Lying for Jesus. I also find it interesting to learn that it's an old hat:That smackdown dates back to 2008.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 12:07 pm
@Smoke34,
Smoke34 wrote:
They say that Dawkins started believing in aliens and stopped being darwinist? Is it true?

Who is "They"?

The term "Darwinist" is usually only used by Creationists when reciting propaganda.
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Smoke34
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 12:21 pm
They are :Harun Yahya and some other creationists. They claimed this, they even edited the Turkish wikipedia article and wrote that he stopped being Darwinist and started believing in aliens. Harun Yahya is making videos about Dawkins which contain irrelevant information.He uses Darwinist as a part of Islamist propaganda. Harun Yahya is a source of shame for our country.,Turkey. There are some extremist Islamist people in Turkey , I admit like Recep Tayyip Erdoğan but there also people who have potential to think. But they brainwash people make them believe in a pedofilia prophet and a non existing god. And Mr.Dawkins's site is banned in Turkey thanks to Harun Yahya. Also thanks for the reply Thomas,sir
rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 12:25 pm
@Smoke34,
I've never heard of Harun Yahya. Is that an organization or an individual?

If the source of the information you have read is from a Creationist, then I would be suspicious of its validity automatically (since their goals are not to reveal accurate information, but to promote an agenda).
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Smoke34
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 12:38 pm
He is a person who writes books about Islamıc creationism (uses fake info of course),has a TV channel which does propaganda about Darwin,atheists and so- called Darwinism, he also has lots of internet sites about Islamic creationism which he again does propaganda
Some of his sites:
http://www.jesuswillreturn.com/
http://www.harunyahya.com/index.php his main site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Oktar article about him his real name is Adnan Oktar
This is Dawkins talking about his book and him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DaQuqrDYM0
rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 12:43 pm
@Smoke34,
The Internet is full of crackpots. It's hard to know where to start.
Smoke34
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 12:48 pm
He is just brainwashing people , I wish there wasn't anyone like him in Turkey Sad
rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 12:59 pm
@Smoke34,
Smoke34 wrote:

He is just brainwashing people , I wish there wasn't anyone like him in Turkey Sad

I wish there wasn't anyone like him in the US either, but the religious zealots are everywhere and they're going to be with us a long time. Settle in for a long relentless battle Wink
Ragman
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 01:04 pm
@rosborne979,
Thinking back not-so-fondly of Dubyah!
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Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 03:35 am
@rosborne979,
rosborne979 wrote:
The Internet is full of crackpots. It's hard to know where to start.

Harun Yahya goes way beyond the internet though. He is to Turkey what Sun Myung Moon is to America---with newspapers and TV channels and all. Come to think of it, does the Unification Church have TV channels? Perhaps Yaya is more like Turkey's Richard Murdoch.
Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 03:53 am
@Thomas,
Who is Richard Murdoch?
Is it possible you mean Rupert Murdoch?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 06:04 am
More significantly, do aliens believe in Richard Dawkins, Harun Yahya and Rupert Murdoch?
Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 06:07 am
@Setanta,
Yes, they do. In in alienated sort of way~.
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