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WikiLeaks about to hit the fan

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 04:27 am
Press release from Amnesty International:


Quote:

Press Release
September 27, 2012
Amnesty International Calls on Sweden to Assure Julian Assange Won't be Extradited to the United States

(Washington, D.C.) -- Amnesty International calls on the Swedish authorities to issue assurances to the United Kingdom and to Julian Assange that if he leaves Ecuador’s London embassy and agrees to go to Sweden to face sexual assault claims, he will not be extradited to the United States in connection with Wikileaks.

In the wake of the Wikileaks co-founder addressing the United Nations and with talks due between British Foreign Secretary William Hague and Ecuadorian officials, the human rights organization said that it was time to break the impasse.

"If the Swedish authorities are able to confirm publicly that Assange will not eventually find himself on a plane to the United States if he submits himself to the authority of the Swedish courts, then this will hopefully achieve two things," said Nicola Duckworth, a researcher at Amnesty International. "First, it will break the current impasse, and second, it will mean the women who have leveled accusations of sexual assault are not denied justice."

"It is vital that states show they are serious about dealing with allegations of sexual violence and that they respect both the rights of the women who made the complaints and the person accused," Duckworth added.

While Amnesty International has no evidence that Sweden plans to extradite Assange to the United States, it is evident that fears about such an outcome have played no small part in the current stand-off.

Amnesty International believes that the forced transfer of Julian Assange to the United States in the present circumstances would expose him to a real risk of serious human rights violations, possibly including violation of his right to freedom of expression and the risk that he may be held in detention in conditions which violate the prohibition of torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.

Amnesty International is a Nobel Peace Prize-winning grassroots activist organization with more than 3 million supporters, activists and volunteers in more than 150 countries campaigning for human rights worldwide. The organization investigates and exposes abuses, educates and mobilizes the public, and works to protect people wherever justice, freedom, truth and dignity are denied.


http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/press-releases/amnesty-international-calls-on-sweden-to-assure-julian-assange-won-t-be-extradited-to-the-united-sta
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 06:38 am
@msolga,
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second, it will mean the women who have leveled accusations of sexual assault are not denied justice."

"It is vital that states show they are serious about dealing with allegations of sexual violence and that they respect both the rights of the women who made the complaints and the person accused," Duckworth added.


Yes, we need to give the CIA oh I mean those two women their days in court over a broken rubber or whatever the hell he was suppose to had done wrong.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 08:39 pm
Press release from Bradley Manning's defence lawyer, David Coombs:

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Military Makes a Mockery of Bradley Manning’s Right to a Speedy Trial

“PFC Manning’s statutory and constitutional speedy trial rights have been trampled upon with impunity,” writes David Coombs, defense lawyer for accused WikiLeaks whistle-blower Bradley Manning, in a new motion posted to his blog yesterday.

The 117-page comprehensive motion takes a long and thorough look at the ways in which the Convening Authority and prosecution have utterly failed to act according to their obligations to provide Manning a speedy trial. Coombs concludes that the only remedy for these extremely long delays is a dismissal of charges with prejudice.

At the time of Coombs’ filing, Manning had been imprisoned for 845 days. Coombs emphasizes just how long this is:

“With trial scheduled to commence on 4 February 2013, PFC Manning will have spent a grand total of 983 days in pretrial confinement before even a single piece of evidence is offered against him. To put this amount of time into perspective, the Empire State Building could have been constructed almost two-and-a-half times over in the amount of time it will have taken to bring PFC Manning to trial.”

In the motion, Coombs describes in detail the prosecution’s delays in providing basic evidentiary documents, the Convening Authority’s improper exclusion of those delays from the speedy trial clock, the Government’s inexplicable inaction, and the effect this extensive pretrial incarceration has had on Bradley Manning.

Coombs then explains that the Article 10 of the U.C.M.J and R.C.M. 707, the legal precepts for a speedy trial, have been repeatedly violated. He also notes that the military has dismissed charges for much shorter periods of pretrial confinement:

“The 845 days PFC Manning has already spent in pretrial confinement dwarfs other periods of pretrial confinement that the Court of Appeals found to be facially unreasonable…”

Coombs will argue the motion in court at the October 29-November 2 hearing at Ft. Meade, MD. On October 17-18, the defense and prosecution will discuss which witnesses may be brought for this speedy trial motion.


(Read the whole motion in the link).


http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/17541-military-makes-a-mockery-of-bradley-manning-s-right-to-a-speedy-trial
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 10:00 pm
@msolga,
Surely it is not acceptable that anyone, no matter what the allegations against them might be, should have to wait 983 days for their trial to commence?
While being kept in confinement (quite a bit of it solitary confinement) for the whole of that waiting period?
While the prosecution has failed to provide all the evidence against that person?
If Amnesty International had brought the plight of a political prisoner in a similar situation to our attention, in some troubled third world country, we would all surely be appalled. And would fully support that prisoner's human rights, & his legal rights.



Builder
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 10:33 pm
@msolga,
The admin is so very busy securing the "freedom" of countries like Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan to be too worried about trivial little problems at home, Miss Olga.

How long was former ally David Hicks incarcerated?
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 11:05 pm
@Builder,
From 2001 until 2007.
With a (military) kangaroo court toward the end of that time (which finally got him out of there!) because he'd become a hot "political issue" for the then Oz conservative government. Who hadn't given a fig up until then.
I think it was Cheney who fixed things up for Howard?
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 11:22 pm
@msolga,
Thanks.

Well he did owe Howard a favour for "staying the distance" in the illegal Iraq invasion. Might be there was a bit of a deal done between them.
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 11:31 pm
@Builder,
http://images.smh.com.au/2011/08/20/2570791/ipad-art-wide-566208814-420x0.jpg
Allies ... John Howard meets the then US vice-president, Dick Cheney, at his Sydney office on February 24, 2007. Photo: Torsten Blackwood

US did Howard a 'favour':
http://www.smh.com.au/national/us-did-howard-a-favour-20110820-1j3k3.html
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Sep, 2012 06:06 am
@msolga,
Quote:
Surely it is not acceptable that anyone, no matter what the allegations against them might be, should have to wait 983 days for their trial to commence


Give me a break such waits are not uncommon in US courts for major cases at all levels beside the military and even in states that have speedy trial laws it is not uncommon for the defense to wave such speedy trail time limits for their own reasons.

BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Sep, 2012 06:51 am
@BillRM,
In fact I love the whining over a young man who broke his oath and betrayed the trust his government had placed in him.

When he get his many decades long sentence to life sentence seems to be kind of beside the point as he will get credit for the time he is under lock and key before trial.

The chance that he well ever get to walk the streets of the country he betrayed even as an old man is near zero.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 29 Sep, 2012 09:09 am
@BillRM,
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In fact I love the whining over a young man who broke his oath and betrayed the trust his government had placed in him


This hilarious, Bill. That young man exposed the crimes of the US government just as Daniel Ellsberg did during the Vietnam debacle. No one is supposed to follow those that commit crimes against humanity.

What do you suppose those that do are?

It's also hilarious because you have had successive criminal enterprises fill your White House, turning it into the Black House. You have had successive criminal enterprises break oath after oath, betraying Americans and all the US is supposed to stand for.

The real odd thing is the level of acceptance for what amounts to a band of war criminals and terrorists.

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The chance that he well ever get to walk the streets of the country he betrayed even as an old man is near zero.


I'm sure that that's what many said about Mr Ellsberg. But you probably found it as refreshing as I did that there were actually some judges who still understood what the "rule of law" meant.


Builder
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 02:45 am
@JTT,
It's a funny issue this "patriotism" thing, JTT.

On the one hand, if a working class person doubts what the admin are up to, they are branded as unpatriotic. When the admin is clearly shown to be acting in ways that are unpatriotic, it's simply a "national security issue" and we won't be going there.
Builder
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2012 07:26 pm
@Builder,
Julian Assange's latest interview with GetUp in the embassy in London.

clicky clicky
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2012 07:32 pm
@Builder,
Quote:
It's a funny issue this "patriotism" thing, JTT.


That's so true, Builder. Especially when it has been built on 230 odd years of lies.

Quote:
On the one hand, if a working class person doubts what the admin are up to, they are branded as unpatriotic. When the admin is clearly shown to be acting in ways that are unpatriotic, it's simply a "national security issue" and we won't be going there.


That's all they need - the illusion that free speech exists.
Builder
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2012 08:02 pm
@JTT,
JTT said;
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That's all they need - the illusion that free speech exists.


Take a look at this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4NA0j_cpRY
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 01:55 am
@Builder,
This made me think of this from Gore Vidal's obituary in the Guardian

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Vidal's politics were always on the left side of the spectrum, and he derided the two-party system in his native land, arguing in the 1970s: "There is only one party in the United States, the Property party … and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat. Republicans are a bit stupider, more rigid, more doctrinaire in their laissez-faire capitalism than the Democrats, who are cuter, prettier, a bit more corrupt – until recently … and more willing than the Republicans to make small adjustments when the poor, the black, the anti-imperialists get out of hand. But, essentially, there is no difference between the two parties."
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 04:14 am
@hingehead,
The deeper I look, the worse it appears.
It's just not sinking in with most Australians.

We really are the lucky country.
For how long, I'm not so sure.
wandeljw
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 07:18 am
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Wikileaks' Julian Assange supporters ordered to pay
(BBC News, 8 October 2012)

Nine people who put up bail sureties for Wikileaks founder Julian Assange have been ordered by a judge to pay thousands of pounds each.

Westminster Chief Magistrate Howard Riddle said they must pay a total of £93,500 by 6 November.

Mr Assange's supporters offered the sureties before he took refuge in the Ecuadorian embassy in London to avoid extradition to Sweden.

He faces arrest if he leaves the embassy after breaking bail conditions.

Mr Assange has been granted political asylum by Ecuador and has been in the embassy since June.

He fears that if he is extradited to Sweden he will be sent to the US to be questioned about the whistle-blowing Wikileaks website - but this has been denied by Swedish prosecutors.

Mr Assange was arrested on an extradition warrant and is wanted for questioning in Sweden over rape and sexual assault allegations, which he denies.

Nine individuals have been told to pay amounts of between £3,500 and £15,000.

The judge said he accepted they had all acted in good faith.

"I accept that they trusted Mr Assange to surrender himself as required. I accept that they followed the proceedings and made necessary arrangements to remain in contact with him," he said.

"However, they failed in their basic duty, to ensure his surrender. They must have understood the risk and the concerns of the courts.

"Both this court and the High Court assessed that there were substantial grounds to believe the defendant would abscond, and that the risk could only be met by stringent conditions including the sureties."

Vaughan Smith, a friend of Mr Assange, addressed Westminster Magistrates Court last week on behalf of the nine people, who put up £140,000 between them.

He said all those who had offered sureties were "convinced that they have done and are doing the right thing".

The chief magistrate decided each of the backers had to pay part of the sum originally pledged, under the 1980 Magistrates Court Act.

He said: "I say immediately that I have real respect for the way that the sureties have conducted themselves in difficult circumstances.

"I am satisfied that what they have said and written accurately reflects their genuine views."

The UK has said it has a legal obligation to see that Mr Assange is handed over to Sweden.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 07:21 am
@Builder,
I can't help thinking there is a point to the Labor fixation on surplus. And the international money markets are confirming it with our continued strong dollar, but that dollar is going to get us in **** with the trade balance.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 08:51 am
@Builder,
Australia should stop supporting the US in its crimes against humanity and its terrorist actions and it should make peace with its neighbors, those neighbors that it has grieviously wronged.
 

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