@Finn dAbuzz,
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Cheap cop-out on your part. You can't argue the polling data, so you pretend that it's not real, or somehow made-up. Nobody buys this argument from you at all.
Turn it back around: YOU telling US something doesn't make it so. You pretend to know certain things, but provide no data or logic to back it up. Just assertions. Why do you think that is convincing?
The preceding is brought to you by Cyclo and his "I know you are but what am I?" school of debate.
In response:
1) You reference a poll with no citation, and I am supposed to accept the poll exists and that you have interpreted it accurately.
If you want attribution for a source, all you have to do is ask.
Here's a run-down by the Kaiser Family Foundation on several polls and how the way they are worded affects the results on HCR; and more importantly, check out the charts showing that clear majorities support keeping pretty much every element of the bill:
http://www.kff.org/kaiserpolls/upload/8114.pdf
I'm more than happy to provide other references if you like.
Quote:2) You consistently dismiss Rassmusen polls as ideologically motivated and yet I am supposed to to accept that the, thus far, imaginary poll you've referenced is legitimate.
This is a non-sequitur. The fact that Ras is ideologically motivated (and that's not an opinion of mine - an examination of their polling shows it to be a consistent fact) has nothing to do with this discussion. But I can see how you are trying to change the subject here.
Quote:3) No one has to "buy" my arguments - they are entirely free.
Free of logic and validity, that I'd agree with.
Quote:The second the Dems shoved it down our throat, told it was good for us idiots, and the American people went nuts.
"Shove it down your throat?" How did they do that? Are you even aware when you parrot talking points, Finn?
The Dems passed the bill in both Houses of Congress, they didn't use reconciliation to do it or some procedural trick. They overcame the Filibuster the Republicans mounted. They even flipped a few Republicans to vote for it. How exactly is that 'shoving it down the country's throat?' Be specific.
The HC bill IS good for the country, though you are correct that you are an idiot.
The 'American people' didn't go nuts. The right-wing went nuts(ier).
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So anyone who opposes Obamacare or disagrees with Obama and, more importantly Cyclo, is either a pathetic sheep, a closet racist, or a greedy capitalist.
Who is the Hater Cyclo?
I do believe that those are the prime motivation points for opposition to Obama and the Dems, yes; greed and fear.
But what you see from me isn't
hate, Finn. It's pity and sadness. I don't understand what causes people to believe the things you believe, other than some sort of scarring on the inside, or cognitive dissonance which can't be resolved.
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