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This speaks to the purpose of the Bible.

 
 
Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2010 08:34 am
This speaks to the purpose of the Bible.

I see the Bible as a tool created or written to have us seek God. Not To find God.

I see the Bible as the tree of knowledge. After all, even it says that we have no access to the tree of immortality but it does not say that we do not have access to the tree of knowledge because that is what it tries to be.

The O T is obviously and demonstrably showing itself as more of an Anti-Christ than the N T Christ that is showing itself as a complete opposite to the O T. That one is so goody goody that he becomes impossible to believe.

The O T has a God who shows absolutely no reverence fore human life and a tyrannical God who gives us a free will to only follow His rules or burn forever in hell. I see this freedom to chose not as that at all but a threat from a dictator God who will kill us at the drop of a hat. To the extreme of using genocide on us in the days of Noah. Animals and all. Definitely a God of hate. An Anti-Christ. Meanwhile, the N T shows a God of unconditional love who will not even stone a prostitute and tells us that if someone steals our coat, to also offer our shirt. Turn the other cheek and so on.

I think that we are to read the Bible, and the reason it was written as is, is to read it as the two sides of the tree of knowledge and eventually follow Eve, then Adam to be as God’s, knowing good and evil. The only requirement that the Bible shows to be as Gods. No miracle working or other such foolishness involved. Miracles are not real.

The demonstrable fact that it is a consolidation of many previous religions shows that it was intended to be the next best guess of the ancients as to direction of thinking in our seeking God. It is a thinking tool to seek God. It is not a picture of God and God is not to be found within it’s pages. The Bible even tells us that to find God we are to look --- out there.

Unfortunately, literalists and fundamentals, be they Christian or Muslim or whoever venerates the Word, have formed the belief that it is God’s actual words and now idol worship the map to God instead of walking through it to go find the real God.
You might say that the great deceiver has indeed deceived the whole world and turned the search for the ideal God, an evolving God, into one made of paper. Pure idol worship to my mind.

End time prophesy clearly shows that at the end of days, we will recognize this fact that these Word and Bibles are just a map and we will look to all the false Gods that arise and elect ourselves a new God and bring on the end of woes. It shows a violent transition to this new God but I hope that we are bright enough to get there without the conflict that the ancients though would have to occur before our great election of the new God.

If we are bright enough, we will let the Words and Bibles fight through us with words only and we will not take up the weapons of war that the ancients though would need to happen.

If we want the true God of this earth, it is to us to elect Him.

Our first God was a man and our last shall be as well.

Is the Bible the tree of knowledge? If it is then we do have a map of sorts. A best guess, to find God.

Regards
DL


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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2010 10:11 am
You cannot "elect" God. God is what and who He is.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2010 11:19 am
@Greatest I am,
You got all that from the bible? Wow!
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Greatest I am
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2010 11:46 am
@Arella Mae,
Arella Mae wrote:

You cannot "elect" God. God is what and who He is.


God is who man has said He is.

Who but man has ever voiced the will of God.

It has always been a man.

You may as well ignore me till you put away the fantasy that you believe in.
There are no water walkers or talking animals.

Regards
DL
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2010 12:01 pm
@Greatest I am,
Perhaps it would behoove you to research the definition of Sovereign God? IF God is sovereign you surely don't get a vote on who he is.

I have had enough. I keep saying I'm done with you and I kept trying to understand you and what you are trying to say but I seriously am done being insulted for my efforts. You seem more interested in insulting others because they have a differing view than wanting to actually have a decent conversation where ideas and thoughts are exchanged.

What kind of moral is that???????????????
Greatest I am
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2010 02:22 pm
@Arella Mae,
Arella Mae wrote:

Perhaps it would behoove you to research the definition of Sovereign God? IF God is sovereign you surely don't get a vote on who he is.

I have had enough. I keep saying I'm done with you and I kept trying to understand you and what you are trying to say but I seriously am done being insulted for my efforts. You seem more interested in insulting others because they have a differing view than wanting to actually have a decent conversation where ideas and thoughts are exchanged.

What kind of moral is that???????????????



Always happy to exchange ideas but ideas like yours that flow from a belief in fantasy are generally short and useless because it is too easy for you to ignore logic and reason and just take your fall back position behind a miracle or get back to riding your scapegoat Jesus into heaven instead of helping to carry the load.

If you want to talk morals, lets do. You will not like what you find inside of you.

As to the idea of blood sacrifice----

Are you willing to look up these and comment on our salvation without the blood or Jesus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp9XIh-BPio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoHP-f-_F9U

The vicarious sacrifice of Jesus was refused by God. As it should have been. It was immoral.

Why have you forsaken me is answered here.

Pro 21:3 To do justice and judgment [is] more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.

Psa 49:7 None [of them] can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:

Regards
DL


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