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As I was browsing through the forums here, I noticed that there were no threads on this subject of reincarnation. This fascinated me because, as I have just taken to studying the subject, I have noticed that it has one unique attribute. Unlike most of the myths I have run across in my studies, most of the beliefs, reincarnation has scientific backing with both evidence and scientists. So I thought I'd post some of the science to reincarnation that I found on a site and see what you all have to say about it.

The following article can be found at:

Reincarnation: Best Evidence - Page One

[QUOTE]Have you lived before? The concept of reincarnation - that our souls may experience many lifetimes over centuries, maybe even thousands of years - has been present in virtually every culture since ancient times. The Egyptians, Greeks, Romans and Aztecs all believed in the "transmigration of souls" from one body to another after death. It's a fundamental precept of Hinduism.

Although reincarnation is not a part of official Christian doctrine, many Christiansbelieve in it or at least accept its possibility. That's not at all surprising; the idea that after death we can live again as another person - maybe as the opposite sex or in a completely different station in life - is intriguing and, for many people, highly appealing.

Is there any truth to it, however? Is reincarnation just an idea, a fantasy? Or is there real evidence to support it? Here's some of the best evidence available, gathered by researchers who, in some cases, have devoted their lives to the subject. Examine it, then decide for yourself.

[SIZE="2"]Past Life Regression Hypnosis[/SIZE]

The practice of reaching past lives through hypnosis is controversial, primarily because hypnosis is not a reliable tool. Hypnosis can certainly help reach the unconscious mind, but the information found there is not reliable as truth. It has been shown that the practice can create false memories. That doesn't mean, however, that regression hypnosis should be dismissed out of hand. If the past life information can be verified through research, the case for reincarnation can be considered more seriously.

The most famous case of past life regression through hypnosis is that of Ruth Simmons. In 1952, her therapist, Morey Bernstein, took her back past the point of her birth. Suddenly, Ruth began to speak with an Irish accent and claimed that her name was Bridey Murphy, who lived in 19th century Belfast, Ireland. Ruth recalled many details of her life as Bridey, but, unfortunately, attempts to find out if Ms. Murphy really existed were unsuccessful. There was, however, some indirect evidence for the truth of her story: under hypnosis, Bridey mentioned the names of two grocers in Belfast from whom she bought food, Mr. Farr and John Carrigan. A Belfast librarian found a city directory for 1865-1866 that listed both men as grocers. Her story was told both in a book by Bernstein and in a 1956 movie, "The Search for Bridey Murphy."

[SIZE="2"]Illnesses and Physical Ailments[/SIZE]

Do you have a life-long illness or physical pain that you cannot account for? Their roots could be in some past life trauma, some researchers suspect.

In "Have We Really Lived Before?,"Michael C. Pollack, Ph.D., CCHT describes his lower back pain, which grew steadily worse over the years and limiting his activities. He believes he found out a possible reason during a series of past life therapy sessions: "I discovered that I had lived at least three prior lifetimes in which I had been killed by being knifed or speared in the low back. After processing and healing the past life experiences my back began to heal."
Research conducted by Nicola Dexter, a past life therapist, has discovered illness-past life correlations in her patients, including: a bulimia sufferer who swallowed salt water in a previous life; a fear of indoor heights caused by carving the ceiling of a church and being killed by falling to the floor; a persistent problem in the shoulder and the arm area having been caused by participating in a tug of war which injured the same arm; a fear of razors and shaving was found to have its root cause in another lifetime where the client had chopped off someone's fingers with a sword and then as retribution had their whole hand cut off.

[SIZE="2"]Phobias and Nightmares[/SIZE]

Where does seemingly irrational fear come from? Fear of heights, fear of water, of flying? Many of us have normal reservations about such things, but some people have fears so great that they become debilitating. And some fears are completely baffling - a fear of carpets, for example? Where do such fears come from. The answer, of course, can be psychologically complex, but researchers think that in some cases there might be a connection to a previous life.

At "Healing Past Lives through Dreams,"author J.D. tells of his claustrophobia and a tendency to panic when his arms and legs were confined or restricted in any way. He believes that a dream of a past life uncovered a trauma from a past life that explained this fear. "One night in the dream state I found myself hovering over a disturbing scene," he writes. "It was a town in fifteenth-century Spain, and a frightened man was being hog-tied by a small jeering crowd. He had expressed beliefs contrary to the church. Some local ruffians, with the blessing of the church officials, were eager to administer justice. The men bound the heretic hand and foot, then wrapped him very tightly in a blanket. The crowd carried him to an abandoned stone building, shoved him into a dark corner under the floor, and left him to die. I realized with horror the man was me."

Physical Appearance

In his book Someone Else's Yesterday,Jeffrey J. Keene theorizes that a person in this life can strongly resemble the person he or she was in a previous life. Keene, an Assistant Fire Chief who lives in Westport, Connecticut, believes he is the reincarnation of John B. Gordon, a Confederate General of the Army of Northern Virginia, who died on January 9 1904. As evidence, he offers photos of himself and the general - and, indeed, there is a striking resemblance. Beyond physical similarities, Keene says that "they think alike, look alike and even share facial scars. Their lives are so intertwined that they appear to be one."

[SIZE="2"]Children's Spontaneous Recall and Special Knowledge[/SIZE]

Many small children who claim to recall past lives express thoughts, describe specific actions and environments, and even know foreign languages - none of which they could know or have learned from their present experience. Many cases like this are documented in Carol Bowman's Children's Past Lives.

Eighteen-month-old Elsbethhad never spoken a complete sentence. But one evening, as her mother was bathing her, Elsbeth spoke up and gave her mother a shock. "I'm going to take my vows," she told her mother. Taken aback, she questioned the baby girl about her queer statement. "I'm not Elsbeth now," the child replied. "I'm Rose, but I'm going to be Sister Teresa Gregory." She later described her nun's habit in detail as well as her daily chores at the convent.
When little Tommywas about five years old, a button from his pants had popped off. When his mother didn't sew it back on right away, Tommy found her needle and thread and did the job himself. "[He] sewed that button on so expertly that I couldn't believe it," his mother said. "I had never taught him to sew and he had never even seen me do it." When she asked how he knew how to do that, Tommy relied, "Well, we used to do it on my ship all of the time." He then related details of his previous life as a sailor.

[SIZE="2"]Handwriting[/SIZE]

Can past lives be proved by comparing the handwritingof a living person and the deceased person he or she claims to have been? Indian researcher Vikram Raj Singh Chauhan believes so. Chauhan has undertaken a study of this possibility, and his findings have been received favorably at the National Conference of Forensic Scientists at Bundelkhand University, Jhansi.

A six-year-old boy named Taranjit Singh from the village of Alluna Miana, India, claimed since he was two that he had been a person named Satnam Singh. This other boy had lived in the village of Chakkchela, Taranjit insisted, and even knew Satnam's father's name. He had been killed while riding his bike home from school. An investigation verified the many details Taranjit knew of his previous life as Satnam. But the clincher was that their handwriting - a trait experts know is as distinct as fingerprints - was virtually identical.

[SIZE="2"]Birthmarks and Birth Defects[/SIZE]

Dr. Ian Stevenson, head of the Department of Psychiatric Medicine at the University of Virginia School of Medicine, Charlottesville, Virginia, is one of the foremost researchers and authors on the subject of reincarnation and past lives. In 1993, he wrote a paper entitled "Birthmarks and Birth Defects Corresponding to Wounds on Deceased Persons"as possible physical evidence for past lives. "Among 895 cases of children who claimed to remember a previous life (or were thought by adults to have had a previous life)," Stevenson writes, "birthmarks and/or birth defects attributed to the previous life were reported in 309 (35%) of the subjects. The birthmark or birth defect of the child was said to correspond to a wound (usually fatal) or other mark on the deceased person whose life the child said it remembered."

But could any of these cases be verified?

In one fascinating case, an Indian boy claimed to remember the life of a man named Maha Ram, who was killed with a shotgun fired at close range. This boy had an array of birthmarks in the center of his chest that looked like they could possibly correspond to a shotgun blast. So the story was checked out. Indeed, there was a man named Maha Ram who was killed by a shotgun blast to the chest. An autopsy report recorded the man's chest wounds - which corresponded directly with the boy's birthmarks.
A man from Thailand claimed that when he was a child he had distinct memories of a past life - as his own paternal uncle. This man had a large scar-like birthmark on the back of his head. His uncle, it turns out, died from a severe knife wound to that very part of his head.
Dr. Stevenson has documented many other such cases, many of which he could verify through medical records.
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I realize the article may be slightly long, but it is a very interesting read and will probably make for a good discussion, anyway leave your thoughts.

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@Ares cv,

it's great that you brought it up.. i have a 6 year old son.. and when he was four.. he started talking about his other mom..he said to me "not you mom, my other mom, i had a mom before you were my mom."... his sister.. and his other brothers.. he described them to me.. told me what they liked to do.. what they liked to eat.. he described family outings with this "other family".. there was no pause in his story.. he spoke about it like it happened yesterday. it fascinated me.. i encouraged him to tell me more, sometimes he did, sometimes he said, "no, it's okay, i'll tell you later."..

he does have a great imagination, but the detail in these stories.. i cant imagine my son at four being such a brilliant liar lol. he was dead serious about this other family, and i believe him. (just now.. as i was about to post this.. i turned to my son and asked him... "hey baby, do you remember when you told me about your other mom, and your sister?".. he smiled, bit his lip and said.."ummm, no" i was gonna ask him what kind of clothes his other mom used to wear..maybe see what "era" they might have been from.. but i guess he doesnt remember anymore.. and now he's asking me questions.. "when did i say that momma?".. and his brother jumped in and said.. "you were four".. his brother is two years older.... and i didnt mention this post of what i'd said in it.

flashbacks of a former life? i like to think so.

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@mimidamnit,

mimidamnit;67638 wrote:

it's great that you brought it up.. i have a 6 year old son.. and when he was four.. he started talking about his other mom..he said to me "not you mom, my other mom, i had a mom before you were my mom."... his sister.. and his other brothers.. he described them to me.. told me what they liked to do.. what they liked to eat.. he described family outings with this "other family".. there was no pause in his story.. he spoke about it like it happened yesterday. it fascinated me.. i encouraged him to tell me more, sometimes he did, sometimes he said, "no, it's okay, i'll tell you later."..

he does have a great imagination, but the detail in these stories.. i cant imagine my son at four being such a brilliant liar lol. he was dead serious about this other family, and i believe him. (just now.. as i was about to post this.. i turned to my son and asked him... "hey baby, do you remember when you told me about your other mom, and your sister?".. he smiled, bit his lip and said.."ummm, no" i was gonna ask him what kind of clothes his other mom used to wear..maybe see what "era" they might have been from.. but i guess he doesnt remember anymore.. and now he's asking me questions.. "when did i say that momma?".. and his brother jumped in and said.. "you were four".. his brother is two years older.... and i didnt mention this post of what i'd said in it.

flashbacks of a former life? i like to think so.

I remember always hearing things like that happening, but I always blew them off as the day to day myth that surrounds ANY supernatural belief. Buut... Lately I've been reading the book Many Lives, Many Masters by Brian Weiss and in it he made mention of some of the research related to reincarnation, soo I took a peek at work and found this article... The two that fascinate me the most are the Handwriting and the Birthmarks... Not only do you have a person claiming to be someone that they have never been exposed to, but you have them giving actual history of this person and then correlating traits between the two persons... I think its fascinating...

As for having flashbacks I think, given that reincarnation is the answer, that it would be highly possible. A soul so fresh in the body might perhaps communicate with the brain, or the brain with the soul... Who knows really... That is the only thing which keeps me from being gung ho on this belief, is the idea of the soul... I just can't bring myself to reason that people have souls... Not in a pessimistic way, but more of a realistic way... For instance if we have souls does everything else have a soul? See if i believed in reincarnation completely I would also find my self an animist. =) thank you for the reply, I wasn't expecting someone to have experienced something like that.

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@Ares cv,

i too was fascinated by reading about the pains and birthmarks.. the resemblance even.. that would be spooky lol.. i've actually never spent anytime looking very deeply into it.. i've of course heard of it. knew what it was.. but never researched it.. i might now lol..

and yea.. souls.. being so recently out of the influence of "christianity" it's hard to say..

this is how i look at it.. so far as humans have souls and animals dont.. if people can reincarnate as an animal.. or animals can reincarnate as people.. then either we must both have souls.. or we both dont..

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@mimidamnit,

mimidamnit;67644 wrote:

i too was fascinated by reading about the pains and birthmarks.. the resemblance even.. that would be spooky lol.. i've actually never spent anytime looking very deeply into it.. i've of course heard of it. knew what it was.. but never researched it.. i might now lol..

and yea.. souls.. being so recently out of the influence of "christianity" it's hard to say..

this is how i look at it.. so far as humans have souls.. animals dont.. if people can reincarnate as an animal.. or animals can reincarnate as people.. then either we must both have souls.. or we both dont..

But perhaps different types of souls... For instance, the soul of a human will always reincarnate as a human, the soul of a dog will always reincarnate as a dog. Or perhaps the soul of humans is the only one that reincarnates.

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@Ares cv,

but isnt it in egyptology that people reincarnated as animals.. or vise versa.. i'll look it up and get back to myself lol

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@mimidamnit,

mimidamnit;67671 wrote:

but isnt it in egyptology that people reincarnated as animals.. or vise versa.. i'll look it up and get back to myself lol

Not so sure if it is, however, I find the idea disagreeable because we are the only animals capable of moral reasoning... So how would the soul of a snail advance? Plus the soul of micro-organisms, if they have one. Or flies.

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@Ares cv,

Ares;67684 wrote:

Not so sure if it is, however, I find the idea disagreeable because we are the only animals capable of moral reasoning... So how would the soul of a snail advance? Plus the soul of micro-organisms, if they have one. Or flies.

i read somewhere... i will add more detail and a source.. but from what i recall.. it's karma.. your station in your next life is dictated on how you did in the present life. .or something like that

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@mimidamnit,

A human soul is like a rough diamond.

It aqquires a facet with each lifetime lived.

What good is a diamond with just one facet?

x

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@xexon,

xexon;67688 wrote:

A human soul is like a rough diamond.

It aqquires a facet with each lifetime lived.

What good is a diamond with just one facet?

x

that makes sense to me

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@mimidamnit,

The reality is you are already a fully radiant soul. Everybody is. It's your actual state.

A soul is just a concentration of consciousness. Very much like a stem cell, it has no identity of it's own, but is capable of all shape and form.

This earthly realm is like a book the soul sits in bed and reads. The imagery that plays in it's head is the physical reality you see around you.

You and I are nothing but a dream.

x

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@Ares cv,

Reincarnation is just the turning of the pages.

One chaper at a time.

x

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@mimidamnit,

mimidamnit;67685 wrote:

i read somewhere... i will add more detail and a source.. but from what i recall.. it's karma.. your station in your next life is dictated on how you did in the present life. .or something like that

Well yes, but my point is how does a snail do good in his/her life?

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@xexon,

xexon;67688 wrote:

A human soul is like a rough diamond.

It aqquires a facet with each lifetime lived.

What good is a diamond with just one facet?

x

Very good point, but couldn't the same thing be applied to a human life, and events in that life causing facets?

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@xexon,

xexon;67691 wrote:

The reality is you are already a fully radiant soul. Everybody is. It's your actual state.

A soul is just a concentration of consciousness. Very much like a stem cell, it has no identity of it's own, but is capable of all shape and form.

This earthly realm is like a book the soul sits in bed and reads. The imagery that plays in it's head is the physical reality you see around you.

You and I are nothing but a dream.

x

Well thats a crappy reality...

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@Ares cv,

Ares;67695 wrote:

Well thats a crappy reality...

but one that i've considered... none of us know the reality of things.. not to a fault.. (well except the seer of course.. and i say that with sarcasm dont you know)...

and im curious to learn about all possibilities... wayyyy before the matrix movies came out.. i distinctly remember feeling many times as though i were an avatar in someone's video game.. it's hard to explain, but i know just what xexon is talking about when he says we're only a dream (i dont know if xenon is a he.. just a generic term lol).. it does sound crazy.. as does any new idea .. but because i AM so confused..and have SAID that im confused.. here in this forum.. im willing to consider all possibilities at this point.. well except "jesus".. i've already been down that road as far as i care to go.

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@Ares cv,

You're reading my words on the screen right now.

You do so because you are immersed in the finest virtual reality going.

When a physical body dies, the house lights come up for a while and you can look around at everything else in creation. The "kingdom". But soon you'll take your seat again for the next movie (you're the star), the lights go down, and off you go again.

Oblivious to everything except what is in front of you.

As long as you are attracted to this world, you'll reincarnate time and time again. But with every facet, the reality of who and what you are becomes more plain.

"Enlightement" occurs when you figure this out.

x

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@Ares cv,

im not knocking you ares.. because you dont blatantly disregard everybody else in this forum..and every post isnt about you knowing what everyone else doesnt know.. but it is seeming to me that everyone seems to know what is true.. and it is only adding to my confusion lol. all i can say is that i will continue my search for what is true for me.. everyone i guess has their own truth.. their own reality. i've just wanted to "know" for so long.. and it's tiresome. i dont think there is one piece of literature out there today that i could trust in as fully as i once trusted in the bible.. and it's frustrating having all these options lolol.. do you know what i mean?

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@mimidamnit,

Mimidamnit :

"when one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." Robert Pirsig

Yes, religion is delusional. You admit this, yet you believe in (based on feelings and irrational logic) a religious belief : re-incarnation.
It may not be an "organised religion", but its a common religious belief.

Therefore you admit you are delusional.

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@mimidamnit,

Truth-based Statement to mimidamnit :

but it is seeming to me that everyone seems to know what is true..
They are born knowing the Truth. Society malevolently strips them of this self-loving ability. This is the primary reason why we are all tortured-victim-creations of society.

and it is only adding to my confusion lol.
That is correct. You are confused. This was inflicted upon you by your society.

all i can say is that i will continue my search for what is true for me..
Truth is relative to an human indivdual. That why we have True Realities. HOWEVER : The only way to uncover this personal Truth is via the Forbidden Truth.
The Forbidden Truth (pure and concrete) and True Reality (relative) BOTH exist. You can know both, because they are seperate in the Superior's mind. The only way for you to win against society is to reject the lies, stop being an inferior, face and accept the Truth, and thus be Superior yourself.

everyone i guess has their own truth.. their own reality.
This is correct. But that is True Reality, not Forbidden Truth. True Reality only came about when society reflected the lie onto you.

i've just wanted to "know" for so long..
This desire to "know" is Superior. You, however, do not make good on it. Forget the lies, forget the bible. Nothing True can come from a lie. Ever.

and it's tiresome. i dont think there is one piece of literature out there today that i could trust in as fully as i once trusted in the bible..
Your one problem is trust. It is a matter of reason AND Superiority. A matter of wanting and recognising Truth, no matter how terrifying that Truth may be to face. Face it. There IS one peice of literature that you should read :

The Manifesto of Forbidden Truth: A devastating dissection of the evil and insane societal myths, lies, rituals, and perversions of early 21st century humanity.

If you cannot see the FT after reading the most Superior document ever written, then there is no hope for yourself.

***NOTE : The above link leads to a website that is NOT run by Me, managed by Me, or have any affiliation with Me. No one should presume that the texts I type here, or on Truthmedia.8k.com reflect those of the author of The Manifesto of Forbidden Truth.***

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