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The book of enoch

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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jun, 2007 03:11 pm
@STNGfan,
What? How exactly did you get that out of what I said?
Silverchild79
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jun, 2007 03:20 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;21385 wrote:
What? How exactly did you get that out of what I said?


The "just give it a chance" thing implies that they haven't considered it fully
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jun, 2007 06:36 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;21286 wrote:
We don't presume to tell Darwinists what Darwinists should believe, just to give inteligent design a chance (I believe in evolution, to a degree, for the record.) The point is that at the Council of Rome, a council of theologians decided on what they wanted to include in the Bible based on coherence and what they believed were the valid authors.



So the book this is all sacred and divine, was edited by man. And thats okay? This god is supposed to be perfect, yet your religion was edited by VERY imperfect beings.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2007 10:59 am
@STNGfan,
No, I mean in schools. Give kids a short lecture about intelligent design and then teach evolution rather vthan teaching it like it's the only thing you are allowed to believe and there are no objections to it.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2007 11:00 am
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;21430 wrote:
So the book this is all sacred and divine, was edited by man. And thats okay? This god is supposed to be perfect, yet your religion was edited by VERY imperfect beings.


It wasn't edited by anyone, just included in a list.
Silverchild79
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2007 11:57 am
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;21515 wrote:
No, I mean in schools. Give kids a short lecture about intelligent design and then teach evolution rather vthan teaching it like it's the only thing you are allowed to believe and there are no objections to it.



I had this convo with the GF a couple months ago. I think it should be taught in school but holy can of worms. If you teach Christian creation you have to teach native American creation, and pagan creation, Hindu, buhai, Buddhist, I could go on forever and by the time kids learned all of those they would be juniors in college

so maybe it's best to teach all intelligent design theories at once
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2007 12:34 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;21516 wrote:
It wasn't edited by anyone, just included in a list.



It was Edited, The Book Of Enoch Edited out, The gospel according to Mary, Judas thomas the egyptians and truth, were edited out. John had what 6 more chapters ADDED after the original 18

This is called editing. and the editing was admittedly done by the catholic church.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2007 01:01 pm
@STNGfan,
No, theose books were decided to be left out of the bible. The Council of Rome created the Bible, there was no common set of books that believers used before then. So, they only included what they believed were valid books, they didn't take anything out, as there was nothing to take out of.
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2007 05:48 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;21537 wrote:
No, theose books were decided to be left out of the bible. The Council of Rome created the Bible, there was no common set of books that believers used before then. So, they only included what they believed were valid books, they didn't take anything out, as there was nothing to take out of.


Moses's father was found not to be a valid book. Judas Iscariate is not valid?

God didnt make thos choices a group of men did, to suit their needs in a holy book.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 08:17 pm
@STNGfan,
Valid authorship.Seeing as he hung humself, Judas didn't have much time to write anything.
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Campbell34
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2007 10:38 am
@STNGfan,
STNGfan;20717 wrote:
Oppps... the churches conviently left out the book of enoch from the bible..I have brought this book up to many christians and they tell me that it is not part of the bible because it was not inspired by God..hmmm how do you know when a book is inspired by God and not..I guess if it doesn't have any trash about God in it, it was inspired by God..

Enoch was the great grandfather of Noah.

Intersting read...what do you think?

The Book of Enoch


The book of Enoch according to Tertullian in 200 A.D. was first rejected by the Jews because it contained prophecies pertaining to Christ. If that were the case, one would think the Chruch would of imbraced it, yet there were many books that did not make the cut. And Enoch was just one of them.
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2007 06:51 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;21516 wrote:
It wasn't edited by anyone, just included in a list.



Wasn't edited for christ sake... which was it Peter or paul, 125 CE 18 chapters then miraculously a NEWER text appeaared with an additional 6 chapters (Talking about resurection no less)

You are right, that is not editing. That is forgery.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2007 06:52 pm
@STNGfan,
If you say so. Perhaps just as miraculous as the appearance of the older text.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2007 06:55 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;21520 wrote:
I had this convo with the GF a couple months ago. I think it should be taught in school but holy can of worms. If you teach Christian creation you have to teach native American creation, and pagan creation, Hindu, buhai, Buddhist, I could go on forever and by the time kids learned all of those they would be juniors in college

so maybe it's best to teach all intelligent design theories at once


That's what I meant. A short lecture about widespread opposing theories, then evolution.
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2007 06:56 pm
@STNGfan,
125 CE for Pauls writings... He was dead before the book was written, and that is the originally book of your resurection theory. hmmmmm.

And I bet Judas wrote things BEFORE he died. that is USUALLY when people write. BEFORE they die
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2007 06:58 pm
@STNGfan,
Before the example of the book that you are using was written, you mean. You want to tell me all about what happened almost 2000 years ago, go ahead, you're probably wrong.

Well, you see, Judas had a rather eventful life. I doubt he had much time to write a Gospel on the road with Jesus.
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2007 07:02 pm
@STNGfan,
The books in your bible were written after the Authors died too. And... still awaiting your point... Or for the name calling to ensue whichever.


""""You want to tell me all about what happened almost 2000 years ago""""

Are you not doing the same thing? If you dont see that, then please reboot your computer before it hurts you LOL
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2007 07:14 pm
@STNGfan,
Well, I'm relying on the people who lived then and were intelligent enough to decide what books they would use, you are relying on modern conspiracies.
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couchp
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2007 08:34 am
@STNGfan,
Are not 6e & 6i a contradiction in terms! It states forgiveness of sins in one, and condemns sinners in the next. It may as well be in the Bible though as the Bible is a contradiction itself! Although a good read and some good stuff in it, to me 'just a book'
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2007 08:35 am
@STNGfan,
Well, quote them in full context, then.
 

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