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Moral sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. Would you give it up?

 
 
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 01:48 am
@dattaswami cv,
dattaswami;58834 wrote:

Existence of God is needed even to establish Pravrutti through creating fear for hell.


many people believe in god but not hell...even so the fear of hell does not make a person anymore moral than they were raised to be.

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If God and hell are not accepted, the sin will grow to climax in a slow and steady way.



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Atheists promise to follow justice even without faith in God, but such promise is not having strong basis


who says we do not have basis for justice? There is mutual benefit to ensure justice, why is a supernatural entity needed to recognize this?

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and it can be violated at any time.


as for anyone, but atheists are less likely to do so....statistically.

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When you are provoked to do injustice, at least the concept of hell and God will control you to certain extent.


prove it.

1. The majority of Americans (85%) have a stated religious preference.

2. The majority of American prisoners (between 80 and 100%, depending on the study consulted) also have a stated religious preference.

3. A disproportionately high number of prisoners were not in any way practicing religionists prior to incarceration. That is, they exhibited none of the standard sociological measures of religiosity, such as regular prayer, scripture study, and attendance at worship services.


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At least the percentage of people committing sins will be reduced. Of course, the concept of God and hell is not bringing the percentage to Zero, but if that concept is totally absent, by one day or other the percentage will be hundred. [/COLOR][/B]

For this point only, God comes down to establish His existence and there by create the fear for hell so that at least the percentage of sin and injustice comes to a minimum level, though complete eradication is impossible. God is not at all bothered to establish Himself for the sake of Nivrutti. If the society runs completely on justice, He will not mind even if all the human beings are atheists.


If the only thing that prevents you from murdering your enemies is fear of hell then i pity you.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 09:44 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
YouTube - Atheist Statistics 2008
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 09:48 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
YouTube - Atheist intolerance
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g-man
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 11:34 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;58810 wrote:
Then explain why atheists statistically speaking are significantly less likely to divorce or end up in prison....


Divorce is not an event that one can point to a belief system as evidence of moral authority. Divorce is the result of failures between two people. Most often the result of the failure of one party in the union to honor a vow.

People who end up in prison, may verbally proclaim themselves as Christians or Muslims or some other religion but, if they do not follow the laws of their God, they are "not" members of the proclaimed religion. Especially representative of the morals taught by that religion. They are in essence, atheist. If they were practicing their proclaimed religions, they would not have committed the offenses that landed them in prison.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Mon 25 Aug, 2008 12:29 am
@g-man,
g-man;58901 wrote:


People who end up in prison, may verbally proclaim themselves as Christians or Muslims or some other religion but, if they do not follow the laws of their God, they are "not" members of the proclaimed religion. Especially representative of the morals taught by that religion. They are in essence, atheist. If they were practicing their proclaimed religions, they would not have committed the offenses that landed them in prison.


Typical, you've committed the No True Scotsman logical fallacy.

no true Scotsman: Information from Answers.com




You have no idea how many times I've heard that excuse but it never fails to be a logically flawed argument. Try again.
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