Can Religious Christians be Good Americans?

The sky is falling the sky is falling!

America belongs to Christians. They are called upon by God Himself to reclaim it, hold it, and use it as the vessel of WORLD CONQUEST. Atheists and pagans have no place in this land and holy crusade.

[SIZE="3"]A Christian jihad?[/SIZE]

July 14, 2007
Guardian Online, UK

Comment is free: A Christian jihad?


"...As the creationism debate clearly demonstrates, the USA is home to a well-organised and motivated movement with intelligent designs on power. It is becoming increasingly difficult to write off Christian fundamentalism and other conservative Christian groups - aka the Christian right - as some kind of loony fringe as its agenda "Christianises" the mainstream. It is no accident that just about every single presidential hopeful in the US has asked God to endorse his or her campaign.

The vision of marrying church and state and constructing a "Christian nation" - every bit as contrary to modern secular values as Islamism - may still seem remote, partly thanks to the tough constitutional protections against such an eventuality, but it is surprisingly enduring.

"We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God to conquer this country," thundered Randall Terry, religious activist and founder of the anti-abortion group Operation Rescue. "We must have a Christian nation built on God's law, on the Ten Commandments, no apologies."

[SIZE="3"]Christian Religious War Video Game[/SIZE]

December 12,2006
Houston Chronicle

NEW YORK- Video game's religious wars stir debate Targeted largely at conservative Christians, it's a violent video game with a difference: Combatants on one side pause for prayer, and their favored interjection is "Praise the Lord."

Critics say "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" glorifies religious violence against non-Christians. Some liberal groups have been urging a boycott, and on Tuesday they urged Wal-Mart to withdraw the game from its shelves.

However, Troy Lyndon, CEO of Left Behind Games Inc., defended the game as "inspirational entertainment" and said its critics were exaggerating. He expressed greater concern about poor reviews from some video-game aficionados, saying the company would offer a free technical upgrade by Dec. 24.

Lyndon's company, based in Murrieta, Calif., has a license to develop games based on the popular "Left Behind" novels, a Bible-based end-of-the-world-saga that has sold more than 63 million copies.

Lyndon, in a telephone interview, said "Eternal Forces" has been distributed to more than 10,000 retail locations over the past four weeks. He said sales were going well, but declined to give specifics.

The real-time strategy game has received a T (for teen) rating, as its makers had hoped. It offers more violence than an E-rated children's game, but less graphically than M (for mature) rated games that have often been criticized by conservative Christian groups.

"Our game includes violence, but excludes blood, decapitation, killing of police officers," the company says on its Web site, noting that a player can lose points for "unnecessary killing" and regain them through prayer.

The game's story line game begins after the rapture, when most Christians are transported to heaven. Earth's remaining population is faced with a choice of joining or combatting the Antichrist, as embodied by a force called the Global Community Peacekeepers that seeks to impose one-world government.

The game's critics depict the ensuing struggle, set in New York City, as one fostering religious intolerance.

"Part of the object is to kill or convert the opposing forces," said the Rev. Tim Simpson of Jacksonville, Fla., who heads the Christian Alliance for Progress. "It is antithetical to the Gospel of Jesus Christ."

Simpson, whose group was formed last year to counter the influence of the religious right, joined in a news conference Tuesday at which he and other speakers urged Wal-Mart to discontinue sales of "Eternal Forces".

Wal-Mart indicated it would continue selling the game online and in selected stores where it felt there was demand.

"The product has been selling in those stores," said spokeswoman Tara Raddohl. "The decision on what merchandise we offer in our stores is based on what we think our customers want the opportunity to buy."

The game's makers contend that the violence from the good side _ the Tribulation Force _ is exclusively defensive, and should not be seen as contrary to church teachings.

"Christians are quite clearly taught to turn the other cheek and to love their enemies," the company Web site says. "It is equally true that no one should forfeit their lives to an aggressor who is bent on inflicting death."

Lyndon said he and his fellow executives hoped to ease critics' concerns.

"They're good-minded people," he said. "They want to keep us from making games that are jihad in the name of God."

Simpson, a Presbyterian Church USA pastor, said he was dismayed by the concept in "Eternal Forces" of using prayer to restore a player's "spirit points" after killing the enemy.

"The idea that you could pray, and the deleterious effects of one's foul deeds would simply be wiped away, is a horrible thing to be teaching Christian young people here at Christmas time," Simpson said.

Anther participant in the critics' news conference, author Frederick Clarkson, argued that "Eternal Forces" _ though less violent than many other video games _ was more troubling in some ways.

"It becomes a tool of religious instruction," he said. "The message is. ... there will be religious warfare, and you will target your fellow Americans, people from other faiths, people who you consider to be sinners."

Clarkson faulted Focus on the Family, a Colorado-based Christian ministry often critical of violent video games, for publishing a positive review of "Eternal Forces" on one of its Web sites.

"Eternal Forces is the kind of game that Mom and Dad can actually play with Junior and use to raise some interesting questions along the way," wrote the reviewer, Bob Hoose.

Other online reviewers _ writing for hardcore gamers _ have been less impressed.

"Don't mock 'Left Behind: Eternal Forces' because it's a Christian game. Mock it because it's a very bad game," wrote GameSpot reviewer Brett Todd.

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America belongs to Americans, christian or otherwise. You right-wing zealot neocons are as bad as muslim extremist with your "We are right, you are wrong" bullshit.

Who if not you thinks you are right and we are wrong, bullshit indeed.

[SIZE="2"]Church sexual abuse inspiration: [/SIZE]

[SIZE="2"]"And he (Elisha) went up and lay on the child, and put his mouth on his mouth and his eyes on his eyes and his hands on his hands, and he stretched himself on him; and the flesh of the child became warm." [2 Kings 4:34] [/SIZE]

I am not the one calling for America to be run or claimed by one set of peoples. America belongs to Americans, not one sect of Americans. There is no such thing as a hyphenated American there is no african-American, mexican-American, christian-American, etc, there is only American or not American.

[SIZE="3"]Lawyer for Church Says He Hid His Own Sexual Abuse by Priest[/SIZE]

November 25, 2003, Tuesday
By LAURIE GOODSTEIN (NYT); National Desk
Late Edition - Final, Section A, Page 1, Column 1, 2046 words
Source: Lawyer for Church Says He Hid His Own Sexual Abuse by Priest - Free Preview - The New York Times


DISPLAYING ABSTRACT - Attorney Robert P Scamardo, who for five years defended Roman Catholic Diocese of Galveston-Houston in sexual abuse cases, reveals own history of abuse as teenager, by parish priest and lay minister; says in interview that he felt good about work fending off lawsuits and collaborating with church officials to yield as little money as possible, until one victim commented that Scamardo could not possibly understand her anguish; Scamardo describes own thoughts of suicide and confrontation with hierarchy aggressibly guarding church assets; says church, not victims, insisted on confidentiality in settlements, that lawyers are still playing hardball behind scenes and that there are still many more abusive priests than have been made public.

LOL...this from the adherents of a dying religion! America was founded on the premise that the government would be secular, that no religion took prominence of another. The treaty of Tripoli stated "The United States of American is in no manner a Christian country". This treaty was signed by President George Washington and Secretary of State (later President) John Adams, ratified by the Congress of the United States and published in all major newspapers for the American people to read. Christianity is losing membership at a rate of 2.5% annually in the U.S. and will become a minority religion within 2 decades, so the call for world denomination is ludicrous at best. :patriot:

Know the difference between "of" and "by"?

[SIZE="3"]US Cardinal Accused of Molesting Woman[/SIZE]


BBC News
Saturday, 6 April, 2002
Source: BBC News | AMERICAS | US cardinal accused of molesting woman

The head of the largest Roman Catholic diocese in the United States has revealed that he has been accused of sexual misconduct with a teenage schoolgirl.
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The cardinal is believed to be the most senior sitting American church official to be accused of sexual misconduct, in a series of scandals over the past few months.

Priests in several states have been removed since the trial earlier this year of defrocked Boston priest John Geoghan, who was sentenced to prison for child molestation.

The Church is facing mounting criticism following allegations that it covered up cases of abuse for decades.

[SIZE="3"]American Paedophile Priests[/SIZE]

BBC News
Tuesday, 2 April, 2002
Source: BBC NEWS | Americas | Paedophile priests 'damage church'

The Roman Catholic Church in the United States is being urged to set up independent bodies to investigate allegations of sexual abuse by priests.

The call comes from the influential Catholic magazine America, which devoted a large part of its Easter issue to a crisis it says has caused "enormous pain and great scandal" in the church.

In a strongly-worded editorial, the magazine says that crimes committed by priests have physically, psychologically and spiritually damaged hundreds, perhaps thousands, of children and their families.

It is their fabricated man-made Bible that inspires this pedophiles:

"And he (Elisha) went up and lay on the child, and put his mouth on his mouth and his eyes on his eyes and his hands on his hands, and he stretched himself on him; and the flesh of the child became warm." [2 Kings 4:34]

The fabricated man-made Bible that inspires this pedophiles and homosexuality:

"I (Jesus) am distressed for you, my brother Jonathan; You have been very pleasant to me. Your love to me was more wonderful Than the love of women." [2 Samuel 1:26]

The fabricated man-made Bible inspires this pedophiles and homosexuality:


"Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved." [John 13:23]

Who made your book?

[SIZE="2"]American Protestant-Christian Radicals Exposed.(The Destruction of America)[/SIZE]

by Ted Duplessis
February 22, 2007

Being a Catholic Creole of lower Louisiana and having a long, long line of Catholic French and Creole ancestors it is starting to really piss me off at how my heritage is being attacked by the U.S. government, media and some politicians. First, I would like to tell African Americans who are whining about racism in the rebuilding of New Orleans, that the developers and government could not be successful with displacing blacks if it wasn't for a long, long line of African-American Protestant people who are so called Reverends and Ministers. The designated leaders of the black race in the U.S.-are always some sort of Reverend or Minister. The trick that has been played on black people, by the media, is that it is white, racist radicals in the media and Democratic party who promote these people. Black people do not get to choose their leaders-instead the Reverends are chosen for them and most of the time, they are tokens to do dirty work for politicians. It is a great, disservice to have Congress people and Senators defer all black issues to about three black Reverends in America. This is done to Hispanics or Asians. The government is supposed to represent all people in this country. Protestant black leaders were given a strip of chicken and a biscuit during slave days, to giver sermon to black slaves about being obedient to whites and their massas. This is the history of the black church in America and blacks need to wake up!

There is no such thing as a Protestant or a Mormon. These are fool religions created to advance white superiority. Mormons are racist and John Smith(White Mormon founder) was a racist who wanted to find a way to make the Arab and African Jewish prophets like Jesus into someone white. Mormons and so called Protestant Christians in America were-catering to the white European lower class and uneducated people-who were of crooks, criminals and prostitutes during the settlement of the U.S.-and these people needed some form of structure. The early whites-and African slaves were of a savage breed. They were Godless and Protestant "made up" faiths were a way of controlling the beast.

The U.S. is a country of radical, religious Christian nuts. The so called Evangelicals, Mormons, Baptist and other branches of these fake Jesus cult faiths-have no basis in any real form of spirituality. [/U] The religions are political platforms and anyone can open up a building and be a Minister or Reverend. America is starting to look like Afghanistan and non-Catholic Christians are looking more and more like Taliban. The only difference from the Taliban and Evangelicals is that one group of religious kooks are Arabs and the other group are white Americans with a few token minorities. These fake, hell and brim fire preachers want to control every other person in this country. They want to change laws, control what people do behind close doors and dictate our lives. Time magazine is running articles showing Catholic as Satanist!! There is just as much abuse issues in Protestant faiths as there is in the Catholic church. People in American act as if they are so afraid to take on a Protestant church or Evangelicals. This is why these kooks are thinking that they can control everyone else and force their ideas on the public. If this is what we are bringing to Nigeria and Iraq than they better start suicide bombing. America is not the ideal or beacon of light to any other nation on the Earth. This country is a mess. America can not civilization build in Iraq. The U.S Government is attempting to take a racial majority and have them rule everyone else. All America knows about is skin color and using it to claim that one people should be higher up than others. This is why the Sunnis are fighting the Shiites. The U.S. government is simpletons. They will always be simpletons and will never be able to colonize any real societies except the Latin American Indian countries and they can barley do that without suffering for the mistakes of the American, capitalist elites. Catholicism is a real religion with a foundation that is based on old, training and tradition. American Protestant faiths are just some kook-interpreting the bible for political ends and getting some stupid whites and even dumber blacks to give them money and follow their words! There is no God or Jesus in any American Protestant faith. These religions are extreme, radical, racist and dangerous. That's the bottom line. Americans should never have the nerve to open their mouths about Islam when we are being terrorized by all of these kooky, strange, radical branches of Christianity. When will this Mormon Republican- Mitt Romney(who wants to be President of the U.S.)-denounce that his faith says that Blacks are dark skin due to being evil and that mixing people of different races is a crime and should be punished by death? These are the people we have running America! Mormons are a bunch of child molesting kooks who have old, ass saggy white men who keep and molest under age girls. The media wants to show these people as normal due to the fact that they have blond hair and blue eyes. These people are animals who maintain a sick and racist religious cult while the U.S. government turns a blind eye. They have an entire state and if this was any other race of people-they would be jailed or ridiculed out of the country. This is what our kooky crazy so called Christian leaders believe and want to spread into our homes. If your Jewish, Catholic or Muslim-then your hated in America and I will not vote for anyone of these man made in American-Christian Protestant faiths of evil and corruption.

If there must be a Nativity scene in every public post-then Jesus needs to be a little brown skin Arab baby. Get historicaly accurate and then see how many American Christians demand a Nativity scene once he isn't portrayed as a pale child sitting in some straw.

I honestly think that the United States will meet its end due to the resentment and back lash from Catholics, Jews, Muslims and other-who are being targeted by these kooky Protestant versions of American Christianity and their efforts to demonize anyone who isn't willing to bow down to them. I, like many other Americans, will not take these right wing, religious kooks trying to change the U.S. Constitution with some "aw shucks" attitude. The U.S. has religious groups that are worse than the Taliban with more corruption, who are being legitimized by some politicians in the government and public personalities in the media. If this mixing of religion and state aren't stopped and if this country continues down this road of religious intolerance than the U.S. will fall as an empire. This country wasn't built on the backs of Protestants. Protestant do not know how to run or build a civilization. Catholics, Jews and Muslims built the world. Protestant weren't even in existence! They can flourish in the U.S., due to America being a country of idiots. The U.S. is a country where if you can not manage to survive in your own native country due to you being an idiot-then one can always come to the U.S. and blend into the idiotic American population. This is why the U.S. is sinking lower and lower.

People are immigrating who are dumber and dumber and mixing into our landscape. We are becoming basic, savage, inhumane, religious freaks who follow the most absurd, man made religions-as long as it says something about Jesus-then Americans will follow anyone and anything. Hitler started off as a preacher. Today , in America, he would be a preacher/politician of one of these American Protestant kooky Christian cults of hate. How long will we allow radical, Christian simpletons to infiltrate the laws, legal system and government of this country? Eventually the Catholics will have to stop being polite, Jews will have to stop being pussys and Muslims are going to have to get over their hate of Jews and Catholics in order to join and neutralize these radical forces, which are attempting to pollute this entire country.

[SIZE="3"]Gay FL Congressman Admits he is a Roman Catholic [/SIZE]

Representative Mark Foley of Florida, the now infamous homosexual who sent lurid messages to young boys, has come out of the closet: He is a Roman Catholic.

Foley resigned last week after his disgusting behavior was exposed, and it is now clear that he is in fact a homosexual and an alcoholic. Another revelation, which has not made the news quite as much, is that several days ago he admitted that he is a Roman Catholic, and that he was abused by a priest as a boy.

None of this should come as any surprise.

As far as his resignation goes, we can't say we are disappointed to see a Catholic Congressman resign in shame. Unfortunately for America though, his opponent in November, who seems certain to win the race now that Foley has resigned, is also a papist, named Mahoney. So make no mistake, America loses either way.

Truly, it will matter little which party picks up seats this November. The far more important thing will be which religious group picks up seats, whether the anti-American, anti-white-protestant, pro-immigration Catholic/Jewish bloc, or real Americans, white-Protestants, who favor stopping the Roman Catholic plot to drown America in a sea of brown Catholics and other alien people, and who favor stopping the descent of North America into the clutches of Rome. See the posting on this site entitled "Catholics vote to abolish America" for a detailed explanation of why religion matters more than party. In the Senate vote on Amnesty for Catholic illegal aliens, religion was a better predictor of which way a Senator would vote than Party.

[SIZE="3"]Christian Terrorists Caught in Miami ![/SIZE]

June 2006

If you've watched the news or read the newspaper lately, you know that a group of Muslim terrorists have been arrested in Miami for plotting to blow up the Sears Tower. Wrong!

In fact, these men were Roman Catholics, not Muslims.

"The family of Phanor [one of the arrested]...told reporters in Miami he was innocent of all charges and was a practicing Roman Catholic, not a Muslim.

'They all call themselves brothers and they are well-mannered,' said his older sister, Marlene Phanor. "All they were trying to do was clean up the community. We are Catholic. He's Catholic.' She said the family attends St. Mary's Catholic Church in Miami." [CNN http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/23/miami.reax/].

"[Phanor's mother said that] alleged plot ringleader Narseal Batiste recruited her son and other men in the area about a year ago to join a neighborhood group to study the Bible and give food to the hungry and clothing to children." [Chicago Tribune].

"Narseal Batiste attended a Catholic elementary school and Brother Rice High School [A Catholic HS]." [Chicago Sun-Times].

It seems that this is another example of the media hysterically pointing to some red fishes and calling them Muslim terrorists. Meanwhile the real threat to the US (Christian extremists) is downplayed or ignored. This time the trick failed, and it turned out that the "Muslims" were actually Christian Catholics! Some major damage control was in order.

Sure enough, the past four or five days have seen two things: 1-The under-reporting of the real religion of the men (Catholicism). 2-The dismissal of the whole thing as imaginary by many in the media.

The point here is not necessarily that these alleged (would-be) terrorists are Catholic (though foreign Catholics in America are without doubt more likely to turn traitor than others), and it's not necessarily that the real religion of the Miami Seven was swept under the rug by the media. The point is this: The media play up the supposed "Islamic terrorist threat" so much and so often, yet never report on the far more dangerous ongoing threat to this country from a far more dangerous alien religion and political power. That would be the Catholic Church, which has done and is doing more damage to this nation than whole divisions of enemy soldiers or muslim jihadis could possibly hope to do.