Could I be a Modern Messiah?

Forums: Religion, Religious
Email this Topic • Print this Page

Following my comments about Heaven and God, I began to contemplate whether I am a Modern Messiah with a goal of telling the people of the Earth that they have "Gone Wrong".

Christians, Muslims, Jews, Sikhs and everyone else we have gone down tangents that lead us away from the truth. We worship the institution of religion more than we worship spirituality.

Order = Life.
Entropy = Death.

Is entropy destroying our Spiritual Life?

A gut feeling (Voice of God) tells me that we need to seek the truth of the Grand Unified Theory of Spirituality (GUTS).

If I have this message for mankind, how can I determine whether I am a Modern Messiah? Or am I just a Nut Case?

Note: I assume that we are all sophisticated enough to understand the difference between Spirituality and Religion.

Topic Stats
Top Replies
Link to this Topic

Type: Discussion • Score: 1 • Views: 2,185 • Replies: 26

No top replies

@z0z0,

Who says that we are all not potential messiahs, live by example thats my understanding of a messiahs job. And if anyone follows you I think thats a pretty good sign.

0 Replies

@z0z0,

z0z0;8479 wrote:

Following my comments about Heaven and God, I began to contemplate whether I am a Modern Messiah with a goal of telling the people of the Earth that they have "Gone Wrong".

Christians, Muslims, Jews, Sikhs and everyone else we have gone down tangents that lead us away from the truth. We worship the institution of religion more than we worship spirituality.

Order = Life.
Entropy = Death.

Is entropy destroying our Spiritual Life?

A gut feeling (Voice of God) tells me that we need to seek the truth of the Grand Unified Theory of Spirituality (GUTS).

If I have this message for mankind, how can I determine whether I am a Modern Messiah? Or am I just a Nut Case?

Note: I assume that we are all sophisticated enough to understand the difference between Spirituality and Religion.

Quote:

Following my comments about Heaven and God, I began to contemplate whether I am a Modern Messiah with a goal of telling the people of the Earth that they have "Gone Wrong".

Now all you have to do is get every one to follow you. Nice of you to start your pilgramidge at Conflictingviews! For you to tell your followers where they went wrong i think you musts know where you've gone wrong first. If you expect your words to be worth anything.

Quote:

Christians, Muslims, Jews, Sikhs and everyone else we have gone down tangents that lead us away from the truth. We worship the institution of religion more than we worship spirituality.

And which do you do? Worship the institution or the spirituality? Or is your answer neither?

Quote:

A gut feeling (Voice of God) tells me that we need to seek the truth of the Grand Unified Theory of Spirituality (GUTS).

You'd better get started!

Quote:

If I have this message for mankind, how can I determine whether I am a Modern Messiah? Or am I just a Nut Case?

Talk to a phyciatrist.

0 Replies

@z0z0,

So you think that someone that proclaims to be a new Messiah is a nutcase.

Would I have to prove my nature by showing you miracles?
Or would you believe me based on faith?

Or do you not want a new messiah?

Have I gone wrong? No.
Can I see where the institutions have gone wrong and failed God? Yes.

1 Reply

@z0z0,

z0z0;8505 wrote:

So you think that someone that proclaims to be a new Messiah is a nutcase.

Would I have to prove my nature by showing you miracles?
Or would you believe me based on faith?

Or do you not want a new messiah?

Have I gone wrong? No.
Can I see where the institutions have gone wrong and failed God? Yes.

Quote:

So you think that someone that proclaims to be a new Messiah is a nutcase.

Where did i say that?

Quote:

Would I have to prove my nature by showing you miracles?
Or would you believe me based on faith?

First thing would be to prove your word has credit. Lead my example is something you have not set yet.

Quote:

Or do you not want a new messiah?

What's wrong with the old one? If there is something wrong how to you plan on being an improvement?

Quote:

Have I gone wrong? No.

Purely speculative.

Quote:

Can I see where the institutions have gone wrong and failed God? Yes.

Seeing your thought patterns thus far i can see how you would view it that way.

1 Reply

@Drnaline,

Drnaline;8506 wrote:

What's wrong with the old one? If there is something wrong how to you plan on being an improvement?

I did not say that there is anything wrong with the old Messiah.

I am commenting that the way Man has gone off on the tangents - into wrong directions - needs to be fixed. Over the last two thousand years the translations, interpretations and choices have taken us away from God.

The proof comes from the fact that in the beginning there was ONE CHURCH - today there are dozens = Roman Catholic + Eastern Orthodox + Protestant + all sorts of others. This disorganization is brought upon by "Spiritual Entropy".

We need to fight this entropy.

Comments made with the assumption that God does exist and deserves our worship.

0 Replies

@z0z0,

What about the other religions? Don't you plan to include them in your messiahhood?

0 Replies

@z0z0,

I feel that IF there is a God then there is one God and there should be One religious institution to worship that God.

We need a Grand Unified Theory of Spirituality.
The GUTS of GOD

0 Replies

@z0z0,

LOL, you don't sell used cars by chance do you, LOL.
I don't think you'll get many followers being as you don't yet believe there is a God.

0 Replies

@z0z0,

Quote:

I feel that IF there is a God then there is one God and there should be One religious institution to worship that God.

Isn't that the origin of these religious wars? Do you honestly believe you could so completly convince everyone to make the SAME choice as you? You can't forget free will.

0 Replies

@z0z0,

If he declares himself the "New Messiah" i think he gets to use special powers to convert them. They will no longer have free will, LOL.

0 Replies

@z0z0,

Do you have free will?

Or is The Bible a set of handcuffs that keep you in line?
Have you studied anything other than the Bible?
Have you taken off your blinders?

You only have free will when you can realistically choose between options.

I think that many "religious" people do not have any spiritual free will.

I really wish that people would put forward new ideas so that we can all learn from one another rather than throwing attacks at one another.

1 Reply

@z0z0,

I am familiar with several religions, and the bible is not where I go to when in need, though it contains much wisdom, I believe that yo should cross examine any information, as I see it if they are Gods word you will find no error. What does God have to fear from human scrutinizing?

0 Replies

@z0z0,

God should have no fear of human scrutinizing.
God should not really care what we think.

Yet he gave us the 10 commandments:
Here are the commandments depending on which religion you are in
(source: Ten Commandments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )

[INDENT]I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt...
You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make for yourself an idol...
You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God...
Remember the Sabbath day, and keep it holy...
Honor your father and your mother...
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.
You shall not covet your neighbor's house...[/INDENT]

This sounds like a God that is a bit vain and insecure.
He takes away our spiritual free will.

Question: Why would the first four commandments be more important than you shall not commit murder?

If I was God, I would try to show my people the benefits of believing in me and following my guidance for a good life. I would not command and punish if someone does not blindly worship me.

Or maybe the ten commandments are a human tool for social control.

0 Replies

@z0z0,

Quote:

Or maybe the ten commandments are a human tool for social control.

They are a human tool, but not for control, but for a civilizing themselves and others, you cannot forget the context in which these commandments were set.

Quote:

Question: Why would the first four commandments be more important than you shall not commit murder?

They are not in order of importance. We put them in the order they are in.

Quote:

If I was God, I would try to show my people the benefits of believing in me and following my guidance for a good life. I would not command and punish if someone does not blindly worship me.

He does show it through his followers, because if he apeared himself to all we would have no CHOICE but to abide. Where does he command anything? He advises us, you have a choice to follow through or not. If you don't do you think your life will be the same as those who do?Do you think that if he commanded we would be able to say no? If so then he's not God.

Quote:

This sounds like a God that is a bit vain and insecure.

Not vain, but don't you think that a truthfull self avaluation of what God should be?

0 Replies

@z0z0,

Hmmm - If I recall - God gave the 10 commandments to Moses.
God put them in the order that they are in.
Rational thinking indicated that #1 has higher priority than #5.

So God would rather that we kill one another than not to believe in him.

I think God should "Put Up or Shut Up".
Stop playing mindgames.

0 Replies

@z0z0,

Quote:

Rational thinking indicated that #1 has higher priority than #5.

If HE didn't say so than that doesn't go beyond pressumption.

Quote:

I think God should "Put Up or Shut Up".

It would be easier, but it wouldn't be free.

0 Replies

@z0z0,

God gave the tablets with the 10 Commandments to Moses.
God put the commandments about worshiping Him as #1.
Probably because that was the first thing that came into his mind.

Free will?
Everything about the 10 Commandments are about taking away Free Will.

God says "If you want my rewards then you will not break my Commandments"
Where is the free will?

The Lord Giveth Free Will and the Lord Taketh Away Free Will

0 Replies

@z0z0,

z0z0;8530 wrote:

Do you have free will?

Or is The Bible a set of handcuffs that keep you in line?
Have you studied anything other than the Bible?
Have you taken off your blinders?

You only have free will when you can realistically choose between options.

I think that many "religious" people do not have any spiritual free will.

I really wish that people would put forward new ideas so that we can all learn from one another rather than throwing attacks at one another.

Quote:

Do you have free will?

Yes

Quote:

Or is The Bible a set of handcuffs that keep you in line?

I use the Bible as a guide.

Quote:

Have you studied anything other than the Bible?

I study and discuss other religions all the time.

Quote:

Have you taken off your blinders?

Anticipating an answer you didn't get! Now you start assuming? How is the view with your blinders on? Or will you say your openminded? If you say you are openminded then i think that would put you in close to the hipocrite catagory.

Quote:

I think God should "Put Up or Shut Up".

Maybe you should take your own advise.

Quote:

Stop playing mindgames.

LOL, nice coming from someone who has high expectations for some entity who he does not know if it is really there? You can see the humor in that can't you?

0 Replies

@z0z0,

Quote:

God says "If you want my rewards then you will not break my Commandments"
Where is the free will?

Which commandment says we will be rewarded? Do you think he gives you money and health if you follow him? His rewards are happiness, love, trust, companionship.

Quote:

God gave the tablets with the 10 Commandments to Moses.
God put the commandments about worshiping Him as #1.
Probably because that was the first thing that came into his mind.

Do you think God just talked to moses, literally opened his mouth and said the 10 commandments?

0 Replies

Could I be a Modern Messiah?

Related Topics

Quick Links

My Account

able2know