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Do You Dream?

 
 
Rae
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2003 08:40 pm
Ordinary?

Hope you sleep well, Setanta.

I'm on my way there now.....

Love,

Rae

P. S. Hope my dreams are good...... :wink:
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2003 09:32 pm
i have had one recuring dream most of my life, nothing happens in the dream. i am just in a very large theatre/auditoriun very dimly lit, i am in the very back and i am very small.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2003 10:13 pm
dys, The impression I got from your recurring dream is this. You are very small in the theater of life, and what you observe has very little to do with your personal life. The dimly lit may signify that you have difficulty seeing everything clearly. I'm not a interpeter of dreams or a psychiatrist, so don't take my opinion seriously. c.i.
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 12:03 am
I don't have a great number of core 'beliefs', but I do accept the view that the act of dreaming is of incredible importance to us as humans. I'd even say that one of the most important functions of sleep is to allow the act of dreaming. We are unable to exist without it, if REM sleep is deliberately witheld then the subject will undergo hallucinations, literally dreaming whilst awake.

I don't hold that 'Dream' dictionaries are useful at all. Dreaming is symbological - the actual content and meaning are completely subjective. The dreamer is the director, viewer and critic.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 04:35 am
I like yer take on that, Mr. Placidpond . . .

Just as i was about to awake this morning, i had been dreaming that i was in the Army (again ? ! ? ! ?), and had been on duty at some sort of function (must have been a "homeland security" thing) at which the swells were ignoring us. Released for the evening, i hurried off, became lost in the building, asked a young lady for directions, and, as i waited for an elevator, saw someone i'd not seen in a long time. He asked how i liked my jeep (instant "teleportation" to the garage) and i told him how great it was. Then he asked "yeah, but what about winter?" to which i replied that i'd put bags of salt in the back for weight originally, but that once i'd gotten used to it, i did with out the extra weight. While waiting (for what ? ? ? ) we were playing cards with some joker. As i awoke, and arose from bed, my final remark to him echoed in my head: "You appear to be playing with a deck from which the Ace of Spades is missing." Standing, i made an effort to keep a recollection of the dream, reviewing what i remembered of it. It worked, to the extent that i've remembered this much, but, oddly, i was very dizzy as i headed for the bathroom (middle age, you know), and had to walk carefully.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 07:09 am
Setanta wrote:
Over the years that followed, my "control" in my dreams got more and more elaborate. While in my 20's, i once dreamed that i was confronted by some gang members in St. Louis (don't ask, it's a dream, logic don't apply), and when one of them reached out with a knife and slit my throat, i mentally willed everyone to freeze, and then put my hand on my throat, healing the wound.


Wow, you must be the guy who thought up "The Matrix"! ;-)

(I guess what characterises the newest generation of movies is how they can resemble ever better the logic and visuals of dreams)

Seriously, though, this does sound like a valuable bit of therapy, sortof, I eman, I can imagine it could be. I would guess that, if you acquire the ability to control more what happens to you in dreams, to 'empower' yourself kinda (especially when it comes to defending yourself against possible harm), this would "ray out" into waking reality, too - would infuse it, too, with an increased self-eh ... government (fill in better word)?

Did you experience that, in the time when you started controlling your dreams - any kind of correlation with issues about being in charge about what happened to you in your waking life, too, or is this just theory? I'm just thinking, it could be helpful for me, perhaps ...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 07:56 am
Nope
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 08:21 am
Please Mr. Custer, I don't wanna go
Hey, Mr. Custer, please don't make me go
I had a dream last night about the comin' fight
Somebody yelled "attack!"
And there I stood with a arrow in my back.
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dream2020
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 08:40 am
nimh wrote:

Other times in my dreams theres something stuck in my mouth that I cant get out, some thing or some substance, and I find myself tearing at it from inside. Trying to get some kind of paste or slime or something thats stuck at my palate, that I cant spit out, out with my finger or thumb. But it never works, cant get it out or theres always more, clogging up my mouth - dirty, rough, like sand for example. And sometimes, as its half-solid, I end up tearing at my tongue, tearing apart a piece or a strip of my tongue before I realise what it is, without, however, being able to tear it off altogether, so that the mess inside just becomes bigger. Had that several times, last night just a repeat of the elements, really.


This is one of my recurring dreams, too, nimh. I have no idea what it could mean, unless it's just an expression of anxiety, trying to get the gummy stuff out of my mouth usually wakes me up.

I'm interested in the aspect of controlling dreams. as a kid, I had night terrors and I learned to control the demons in them so they would go away and leave me be. I think it was very important I learned that control, as it saved me from a lot of nightly dread. I also wished to fly right before I went to sleep, and reminded myself in the dream-state to flap my arms and go. I don't know how, but i think this helped me in conscious life.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 08:45 am
I'm not high
not too lowly
try to fly
but i beat
my wings
too slowly
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dream2020
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 10:06 am
that's because we've grown up, dys.
feet need to be on the ground to
get things done.
and now all the demons are in my head
instead of in the basement or under the bed.
And the scummy stuff I clean out of my mouth
in a dream
is just another way to pull
the demons out.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 10:10 am
One of my recurring dreams is my lost wallet. c.i.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 10:39 am
Setanta wrote:
Nope


ah well.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 10:44 am
dream2020 wrote:
This is one of my recurring dreams, too, nimh. I have no idea what it could mean, unless it's just an expression of anxiety, trying to get the gummy stuff out of my mouth usually wakes me up.


That is trippy. I mean, it was awful enough (well, if it gets to tearing your tongue up and all that) to hope that it was a rare exception. I guess its not.

My instinct is that it has something to do with feelin stifled, in whatever context, in waking life, or - something.

dream2020 wrote:
I'm interested in the aspect of controlling dreams. as a kid, I had night terrors and I learned to control the demons in them so they would go away and leave me be. I think it was very important I learned that control, as it saved me from a lot of nightly dread. I also wished to fly right before I went to sleep, and reminded myself in the dream-state to flap my arms and go. I don't know how, but i think this helped me in conscious life.


so there might be a lead there after all. i really think it sounds promising. if its about getting back in charge or achieving freedom, why not start with the dream and work from there back into reality. i have to think about that.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 10:50 am
Keeping in mind that i was aoubt eight or nine yeras old, the method i used was quite simple, i just repeated a mantra to myself as i drifted off each night, to the effect that i could control my dreams. I told myself: "Just wake up. Just wake up." The reason i said "nope" before is that i don't believe this does anything more than to temporarily give you some slight conscious control. My experience is that after a period of time, in my case about twenty or twenty-five years, the ability went away. It did seem, though, that it always showed up during nightmares. I almost never have nightmares any longer--when i do, i seem to automatically wake up. I think that inasmuch as dreams are an other-than-conscious mind activity, interference has a limited utility. I don't think you would harm yourself, but i think that whatever portion of the mind is activity during dreaming just finds a means to avoid conscious control. Given what i've read about your nightmare, i'd say it's worth your effort to lull yourself to sleep with the "Just wake up" mantra, and get past whatever it is that makes you dream that. I really think i went too far with it--i no longer have flying dreams, or have them but rarely, and i sorely miss them.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 10:52 am
Dream, when i would fly in my dreams, i mean willfully so, i would run (slowly--yes, i know, oxymoronic) until i could will myself up into the air. I seemed to run in slow motion, but at some point, in my leaping, i would remain off the ground. Then i would will myself further into the air, until i was at about tree-top level, at which point the flying came naturally. Beware, though, i cannot reacll having had a flying dream in about twenty years. I may have had one recently, but i can't recall well enough to be certain.
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Letty
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 11:05 am
Well, setanta, you do realize that if you dream about falling and hit the ground before you wake up, you're a dead man. Laughing
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 11:12 am
Ain't gonna happen, darlin', i got the psychic parachute all packed up an' ready to go.

I'd like to point out that everything i've written here is anectdotal evidence, there are no guarantees. That is why i originally responded with "nope"--i don't want anyone to think they can rely upon the same results.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 11:42 am
Setanta wrote:
I'd like to point out that everything i've written here is anectdotal evidence, there are no guarantees. That is why i originally responded with "nope"--i don't want anyone to think they can rely upon the same results.


f'r sure. sounds like quite a special achievement.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2003 11:51 am
Rather, let us say a bizarre accomplishment . . .
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