Energy

and you were saying?

50,000 Gallons Of Crude Oil Spills Into Partially Frozen Yellowstone River
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/01/19/3612952/montana-yellowstone-river-oil-spill/




And which dirty energy company paid for the LA times article "Solar energy's darker side stirs concern" to be published? Got any guesses?

It is not that difficult to recycle solar panels, they are inert and easily recycled. Much easier than recycling CO2 from the atmosphere and oil spills from rivers and wildlife estuaries.

List of Oil Spills
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_spills

Still not had enough? Coming to drinking water near you.

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Big Oil Destroys the Great Australian Bight
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-reese-halter/big-oil-destroys-the-grea_b_6470476.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000044

Pipeline breach spills oil into Yellowstone River
http://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/local/2015/01/18/pipeline-breach-spills-oil-yellowstone-river/21966343/

But don't be worried, tar sands pipelines are perfectly safe... (cynical)

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

500,000 gallons of oil spilled last Sunday!

Take a moment to research the environmental impact in China of strip mining for rare earth metals for things like Prius cars and you'll start to grasp some of the smoke-and-mirrors problems of the "electric economy."
http://e360.yale.edu/feature/boom_in_mining_rare_earths_poses_mounting_toxic_risks/2614/

There are so many problems with the rosy picture that's been painted for you where you collect sun with panels, convert it to electricity, store it in batteries, then drive to whole foods in your Prius using those batteries. Every time energy is converted from one form to another, there are significant losses. Convert sun to electric: significant losses. Convert electric to stored chemical energy in batteries: more significant losses. Convert stored chemical energy in batteries to electricity: more losses. Convert electricity into motive force for car: Still more losses. And the truth is that the photovoltaic cells provide only a drop in the bucket as far as current electric demand, thus you're creating even more demand for fossil fuel-based and nuclear-based power plants, which nobody wants in their back yards, thus we can add significant transmission losses to the other losses, PLUS instead of just trashing a gas-powered car after 10 years, we can now also add the photovoltaic arrays now at the end of their useful lives, the additional car batteries, the rare earths, and now we have additional nuclear waste to contend with too.

There ARE alternatives, one of which is using sun for what it does best. Using sun to heat water for domestic use and storing it in insulated rooftop containers is a brilliant idea with none of these problems, and the technique is widely used in many countries. Using windmills to compress air makes far more sense to run tractors, motors, farm and factory equipment, air conditioners and the like, than using an intermediate conversion to and from electricity.

Thousands Of Montanans Can’t Drink Or Cook With Tap Water Because Of Oil Spill
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/01/20/3613127/yellowstone-river-oil-spill-contaminates-drinking-water/

And this is a better alternative?

I would like to also mention that new solar panel technologies that do not require rare earth minerals have been developed and are in early stages of manufacture. Had we not had such a strong dirty energy lobby we would be many years ahead in the R & D of these new cleaner technology methods.

On the other hand there can never be a method developed to turn the burning of fossil fuels into a safer byproduct. It will always produce CO2 no matter what we do.

I will repeat again, these scare tactics aimed at solar energy are paid for by dirty energy so they can continue to make obscene profits at the expense of our environment and there is no safer method for the burning of these fuels on the horizon whatsoever.

I suppose the money behind the LA times article did not care to mention this:

Removing the Rare Element Limitations from Solar Energy
http://www.altenergymag.com/emagazine/2011/10/removing-the-rare-element-limitations-from-solar-energy/1794

Now how do we remove the CO2 and oils spill aspect from the greedy glut for fossil fuels?

Please answer that question before you go downing solar energy. Solar energy is a new burgeoning industry where fossil fuels have had over a century to clean up there act.

Solar Energy Corporation
http://www.hanwha.com/en.html?cmpid=A02_B01_C07_D0001_E0005&gclid=CJ7t-sHio8MCFWsF7AodQn0ALw

That was a really bone-headed reply of yours that indicates you didn't even read what I had written; First, my quote was from Yale University, not from a dirty energy corporation, second my recommendation of using wind-powered compressed air is certainly not on the big energy agenda. Wake up and smell the difference.

Corporations have been paying certain unscrupulous "professors" (if you want to call them that) at universities to look the other way for decades now...

And what of the numerous other points I made about the dead end of dirty fuels and lack of ability to clean them up through R&D? You have nothing to say about that whatsoever?

Or are you just trying to score points for the greedy dirty energy corporations too?

So far it seems you not only have no credibility but also no concern for our environment.

Green energy corporations have and will address the consumption of rare earth minerals in their products thought R&D but coal, gas and oil still continue to pollute pristine ecosystems without impunity.

Who has a bone headed response? More like Neanderthal caveman response from you, go back to your Fox News and your corporate mumbo-jumbo dirty energy polluter propaganda "Banana Breath"....

One more horses ass response from you and I will put you one ignore with, err, CJ... You are familiar with your buddy CJ huh?

Inside the Koch brothers' campus crusade
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2014/03/27/14497/inside-koch-brothers-campus-crusade

Let's talk of the consumption of rare earth minerals...

Cell phones, everyone has to have the latest iteration of the smart phone.

Smart phones use a magnitude more rare earth minerals than solar panels and so do flat panel tv's.

People own three and four and fiver smart phones and store them in drawers when they are done with using them for a few months.

Where is the Yale university report on this!!!???

If corporations could make gas powered smart phones they would certainly try.

Yet they are strangely silent on the impact these smart phones have on the environment.

I do not own a car and I have never owned a smart phone.

Do you have any conception of how many rare earth minerals are used in the manufacturing of motor vehicles?

What are YOU doing to lessen your own carbon footprint on this earth?

Yet when it comes to collecting FREE CLEAN ENERGY from the sun we get university professors squawking about the footprint of rare earth minerals?

Something is rotten in the Denmark...

America's Most Obvious Tax Reform Idea: Kill the Oil and Gas Subsidies
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/03/americas-most-obvious-tax-reform-idea-kill-the-oil-and-gas-subsidies/274121/

Wow, what closed-minded drone you are, oblivious to everything else in the world. I've worked with alternative energy for over 30 years and have run an organic farm in New Hampshire with a primarily passive-solar heated house. Clearly your tiny-brained agenda makes you want to paint all of the world with the same brush, either your way or no way. You and George Bush have so much in common.

I don't care if you have worked with underprivileged children in Siberia for a decade,

Your Fox New agenda is not obfuscated by comparing me to Bush or any other small shrubbery archetype.

Folks, this makes a first me being compared to a former US president. How ever so humble an honor it may be.

Pipeline rupture response challenged by winter freeze
http://on.msnbc.com/1CDRLLx

Anyone for a cup of benzene? And who is going to deliver fresh bottled water to the wildlife?

Harsh charges need to be filed for these disasters.

Your HUTA award awaits you; You can pick it up at your convenience.

This is a far more effective way to use solar energy, passive solar integrated with building design. No lead-acid batteries, no conversion losses going solar -> electricty -> heat/motors/etc


And this is another, rooftop solar water heating, which is standard practice in many countries including Israel, Japan, Italy, etc.


I suspect RexRed is actually working for Big Oil in a subversive capacity, pretending to promote solar panels while spouting ignorance and insults in order to try to make legitimate green energy efforts look stupid. But ah, the ruse won't work. We have your number.

Some of the most interesting work in this area has been done by Paolo Soleri, applying passive solar and other sustainable energy practices into city scale design- which he termed Arcology.



Some of the most interesting work in this area has been done by Paolo Soleri, applying passive solar and other sustainable energy practices into city scale design- which he termed Arcology.

What is that a self portrait of you? Looks like it.

Still think solar energy is more toxic **** for brains?

Second crude pipeline spill in Montana wreaks havoc on Yellowstone River
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/1/21/oil-pipeline-burst.html

And I bet you approve of Keystone XL pipeline too you brainwashed hillbilly drone.

Once the GOP is done their deliberate poisoning of Yellowstone river they think this will allow them to go in and rape the Yellowstone national park of its resources. Instead their oil pipelines should be banned from the vicinity near any river whatsoever!!!

Fucktard Banana Breath how about a cup of benzene and maybe you will change your sour tune about solar energy.... fast...

And how many rare earth minerals will be needed to rebuild every house in the US to the specification that your naive diagrams specify?

Now many rare earth minerals will be needed to, err, REBUILD CITIES! Jeesh! Didn't think of that did you!!!???