RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Thu 21 Jun, 2012 01:02 pm
Solar cell breakthrough taps previously unused energy source
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/21/solar-cell-breakthrough-taps-previously-unused-energy-source/
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Thu 21 Jun, 2012 01:35 pm
Sweden on alert after explosives found near nuclear plant
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/21/sweden-on-alert-after-explosives-found-near-nuclear-plant/
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Fri 22 Jun, 2012 01:32 pm
Germany Swaps Nuclear for Solar and Wind Power
http://truth-out.org/news/item/9932-germany-swaps-nuclear-for-solar-and-wind-power
RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Fri 22 Jun, 2012 05:32 pm
U.S. cuts greenhouse gases despite do-nothing Congress
http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/21/news/economy/greenhouse-gases-cut/index.htm
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Fri 22 Jun, 2012 08:44 pm
Ups and downs for Higgs boson buzz

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/21/12345552-ups-and-downs-for-higgs-boson-buzz?lite
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 01:38 am
Green Celebrities
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/22/green-celebrities-actors_n_1613338.html?1340376257&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009#slide=1132425
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georgeob1
 
  1  
Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 11:58 am
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:


The piece you linked was superficial and positively misleading in several respects. Germany has indeed heavily subsidized the construction of wind turbines and even solar generating stations even in areas not particularly conducive to their efficiency due to local climactic conditions. Despite enormous investments of government money and much higher operating costs compared to other energy sources, wind and solar power contributed only 10% of the total electrical power consumption in Germany in 2010 & 2011. (The article included hydropower, biomass and waste generation in the total) . This compares to the 35% of total power produced by their nuclear plants prior to the start of the shutdowns. The real direct effect of the shutdown of (so far) 8 nuclear power stations has been an increase in the import of electrical power from across the border in Poland whare the power is generated by coal plants. The fact is that most of the wind and solar power construction preceeded the shutdown of the nuclear stations and was done to meet increasing demand for electrical power. Now with the subsequent shiutdown of roughly equivalent generating capacity, to a very large extent Germany is substituting emissions free nuclear power with a sudden increase in the import of coal generated power.

The article also deceptively acknowledged the greater cost of wind and solar power by noting the $ 54 billion cleanup costs of the Fukushima plant in Japan (the result of a highly unususl natural disaster which caused vastly more damage than the Fukushima accident) . The simple fact here is that the added annual subsidies in Germany required to support the differential costs between wind & solar and nuclear - even at the 10% level they now achieve - significantly exceed those of the Fukushima recovery each and every year. Fukushima was an exceedingly rare event: the added costs of wind and solar power are certain and will continue as long as they operate.
RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 01:17 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

RexRed wrote:


The piece you linked was superficial and positively misleading in several respects. Germany has indeed heavily subsidized the construction of wind turbines and even solar generating stations even in areas not particularly conducive to their efficiency due to local climactic conditions. Despite enormous investments of government money and much higher operating costs compared to other energy sources, wind and solar power contributed only 10% of the total electrical power consumption in Germany in 2010 & 2011. (The article included hydropower, biomass and waste generation in the total) . This compares to the 35% of total power produced by their nuclear plants prior to the start of the shutdowns. The real direct effect of the shutdown of (so far) 8 nuclear power stations has been an increase in the import of electrical power from across the border in Poland whare the power is generated by coal plants. The fact is that most of the wind and solar power construction preceeded the shutdown of the nuclear stations and was done to meet increasing demand for electrical power. Now with the subsequent shiutdown of roughly equivalent generating capacity, to a very large extent Germany is substituting emissions free nuclear power with a sudden increase in the import of coal generated power.

The article also deceptively acknowledged the greater cost of wind and solar power by noting the $ 54 billion cleanup costs of the Fukushima plant in Japan (the result of a highly unususl natural disaster which caused vastly more damage than the Fukushima accident) . The simple fact here is that the added annual subsidies in Germany required to support the differential costs between wind & solar and nuclear - even at the 10% level they now achieve - significantly exceed those of the Fukushima recovery each and every year. Fukushima was an exceedingly rare event: the added costs of wind and solar power are certain and will continue as long as they operate.


Where in the hell do you get this ****? "Fukushima was a rare event" that nearly rendered life on earth extinct and still has the potential to do so. Considering nuclear technology is only about 40 years old how many rare events can the earth withstand? The Chernobyl disaster is only 30 years old and was that cleaned up? Hell no! Talk about deception! A year later after Fukushima terrorists explosives are found outside a nuclear complex in Sweden...

Yellowstone blowing up is a "rare event" nuclear power and its evident dangers are an inevitable event if we do not change our methods of collecting energy. Besides, plutonium is not a renewable resource either and the collection thereof is causing significant damage to the earth. ...And "emissions free"? What do you call nuclear waste and "radiation"? And Fukushima is "cleaned up"? Not hardly.... You have just equated your intelligence to saw dust.
georgeob1
 
  1  
Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 03:51 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:

Where in the hell do you get this ****? "Fukushima was a rare event" that nearly rendered life on earth extinct and still has the potential to do so. Considering nuclear technology is only about 40 years old how many rare events can the earth withstand? The Chernobyl disaster is only 30 years old and was that cleaned up? Hell no! Talk about deception! A year later after Fukushima terrorists explosives are found outside a nuclear complex in Sweden...

Yellowstone blowing up is a "rare event" nuclear power and its evident dangers are an inevitable event if we do not change our methods of collecting energy. Besides, plutonium is not a renewable resource either and the collection thereof is causing significant damage to the earth. ...And "emissions free"? What do you call nuclear waste and "radiation"? And Fukushima is "cleaned up"? Not hardly.... You have just equated your intelligence to saw dust.


The tusnami that caused the Fukushima reactor accident, and which also separately killed about 20,000 Japanese people, was indeed a rare geological event. It is noteworthy that though the reactor failure captured most of the media attention, it was but a very small portion of the damage done by the earthquake and associated Tusnami. Though 20,000 lives were lost in the event , none were associated with the reactor failure.

Nuclear reactors involve no emissions of greenhouse gas. That, despite your hysteria, is simply a fact. We live our lives bathed in nuclear radiation from the sun, the earth, and the materials in our own bodies. The general contribution to the radioligical dose of all manmade sources is a small fraction of the natural dose we get. Moreover the contribution to the manmade dose due to nuclear power is but a very small fraction of the manmade dose - medical testing exclipses it by an order of magnitude. High level nuclear waste is a readily manageable engineering problem. The fact is that the total quantity of it is rather small and its storage & management is quite straightforward.

Your understanding of physics is seriously deficient. Plutonium is exceedingly rare in nature.. It is instead created in nuclear reactors through neutron absorption by Uranium-238. Uranium is widely found in the earth and, though not inexhaustable, is readily available in amounts to last indefinately. In terms of the recorded duration of human civilization it is a nearly inexhaustable resource.

There was no public health impact whatever from Three Mile Island - none, zero. The Chernobyl reactor failure killed 200+ people in the weeks after the accident and the associated recovery effort. An additional estimated 1,000 cases of childhood thyroid cancer are estimated to have occured, all of which were easily preventable by the taking of standard iodine tablets after the accident. The Soviet Government deliberately lied and attempted to cover up the accident and, as a result took none of the standard safety precautions following it - things they were otherwise well prepared to do. Some claim that up to 20,000 cases of cancer, attributable to the accident, occurred in Ukraine in the decades following the accident. However for that to be true all other causes of these cancers would have had to stop, in that the incidence of the disease over the period in question did not rise over previous and subsequent levels. As a point of comparison over 40,000 Americans are killed, every year, in automobile accidents.

You are very energetic in pasting links to various opinion pieces, but very lacking in basic knowledge and understanding. You would be wise to invest more of your time in improving your understanding of science and engineering, and less in search of propaganda supporting opinions you appear to accept so unquestioningly from others.

RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 06:02 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

RexRed wrote:

Where in the hell do you get this ****? "Fukushima was a rare event" that nearly rendered life on earth extinct and still has the potential to do so. Considering nuclear technology is only about 40 years old how many rare events can the earth withstand? The Chernobyl disaster is only 30 years old and was that cleaned up? Hell no! Talk about deception! A year later after Fukushima terrorists explosives are found outside a nuclear complex in Sweden...

Yellowstone blowing up is a "rare event" nuclear power and its evident dangers are an inevitable event if we do not change our methods of collecting energy. Besides, plutonium is not a renewable resource either and the collection thereof is causing significant damage to the earth. ...And "emissions free"? What do you call nuclear waste and "radiation"? And Fukushima is "cleaned up"? Not hardly.... You have just equated your intelligence to saw dust.


The tusnami that caused the Fukushima reactor accident, and which also separately killed about 20,000 Japanese people, was indeed a rare geological event. It is noteworthy that though the reactor failure captured most of the media attention, it was but a very small portion of the damage done by the earthquake and associated Tusnami. Though 20,000 lives were lost in the event , none were associated with the reactor failure.

Nuclear reactors involve no emissions of greenhouse gas. That, despite your hysteria, is simply a fact. We live our lives bathed in nuclear radiation from the sun, the earth, and the materials in our own bodies. The general contribution to the radioligical dose of all manmade sources is a small fraction of the natural dose we get. Moreover the contribution to the manmade dose due to nuclear power is but a very small fraction of the manmade dose - medical testing exclipses it by an order of magnitude. High level nuclear waste is a readily manageable engineering problem. The fact is that the total quantity of it is rather small and its storage & management is quite straightforward.

Your understanding of physics is seriously deficient. Plutonium is exceedingly rare in nature.. It is instead created in nuclear reactors through neutron absorption by Uranium-238. Uranium is widely found in the earth and, though not inexhaustable, is readily available in amounts to last indefinately. In terms of the recorded duration of human civilization it is a nearly inexhaustable resource.

There was no public health impact whatever from Three Mile Island - none, zero. The Chernobyl reactor failure killed 200+ people in the weeks after the accident and the associated recovery effort. An additional estimated 1,000 cases of childhood thyroid cancer are estimated to have occured, all of which were easily preventable by the taking of standard iodine tablets after the accident. The Soviet Government deliberately lied and attempted to cover up the accident and, as a result took none of the standard safety precautions following it - things they were otherwise well prepared to do. Some claim that up to 20,000 cases of cancer, attributable to the accident, occurred in Ukraine in the decades following the accident. However for that to be true all other causes of these cancers would have had to stop, in that the incidence of the disease over the period in question did not rise over previous and subsequent levels. As a point of comparison over 40,000 Americans are killed, every year, in automobile accidents.

You are very energetic in pasting links to various opinion pieces, but very lacking in basic knowledge and understanding. You would be wise to invest more of your time in improving your understanding of science and engineering, and less in search of propaganda supporting opinions you appear to accept so unquestioningly from others.




I spend every day trying to learn this science stuff.

Just a cursory search of Google shows you are incorrect in your very first assertion... How many of your "facts" are unchecked?

You wrote: Though 20,000 lives were lost in the event, none were associated with the reactor failure. It seems you are a victim of media blackout. How much more are you unaware of?

http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/01/police-die-of-radiation-in-fukushima/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FukushimaDiary+%28Fukushima+Diary%29

Apparently the number of people who have died from radiation is not general public knowledge. This is 100% profit based and not based upon friendly technologies. You keep saying how much clean renewable energy would cost WHO CARES? Is any cost to great to protect our finite planet?

It doesn't take a physics guru to understand the dangers of nuclear energy and radiation. You could easily learn the dangers from watching an episode of Star Trek. The world's greatest physicists are foaming at the mouth warning of Fukushima's ongoing pending dangers. We haven't invented a device that can even enter these reactor rooms and apply water to start the cooling process. And who is responsible for this cleanup, British Petroleum? I hope not! Just consider how poorly the Gulf of Mexico cleanup has gone and how truly dirty oil is then multiply that disaster by a million... We have near global extinction in Japan while China is all Gung-Ho on building new reactors like they are temples to their gods on the Yangtze...

I am saying the cost is too great and you are saying it would take a rare occurrence to wipe out human life. That is a chance not worth taking no matter the clean up price. The Exxon Mobil spill in Valdez Alaska, 40 years later it is still a lifeless and barren body of water now oil stained beaches as far as the eye can see... And the perpetrators have bought off presidents and congress to pardon their "accidents"... Just like Chernobyl.

How many billions of dollars can restore the life on earth after the next major catastrophe? What greedy company will stand behind their disasters when they have never fully done so in the past? Consumers don't seem to care either... No amount of money could fix that kind of nuclear disaster. We have created a scenario that has apocalyptic proportions and you are concerned about the price of a simple fan blowing in the wind? Or light capturing cells which every hand held device should have NOW were it not for greedy utility companies and slave labor in China...

Just look at what plastic (oil) has done to our world we have a garbage patch in the Pacific and the Atlantic oceans the combine size of a continent. With nuclear energy we will have the same problems but on a greater scale. One accident here one accident there till they pile up and an entire ocean and various land areas will be polluted for many millennia. All to save a few dollars at the tank for consumers who are a greedy and careless public, who are the very people who tossed their cigarette butts, barbie dolls and spent fishermen's nets into the ocean in the first place. All so they didn't have to walk to a trash can. We expect greedy and lazy people to keep us safe?

Then there is landfill... Plastics PCB's oozing from under the earth years later as methane and making people sick. This methane in a nuclear age will be radiation instead as more and more spent fuel rods are buried underground. And once again what about natural disasters? A lightning bold strikes and burns a forest down it can grow back but if it strikes a working nuclear plant or storage facility we are ALL doomed. As more and more nuclear facilities dot the landscape the greater the chance of total annihilation. All to save a few measly dollars at the pump so wall street can continue to monopolize our political discourse. All so oil companies can rake in billions in profit. All so we can take the easy way out. Energy takes collective energy, not laziness, politics and flagrant oversight and negligence.

I say that, you take the profit incentive out of energy and within a few years the entire world would be using solar and wind. We would not care about shareholders we would all hold an equal share in our green future.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 08:27 pm
You can readily find a web site somewhere that will advance almost any conspiracy theory. The Japanese government has reported on the public health impact of the Fukushima reactor failure and no deaths have been reported due to it.

I doubt that you have ever travelled across any ocean and have any real idea of what is or is not out there.

The earth's population is now about 7 billion. Do you believe we could sustain that population using solar and wing energy alone?

As for the rest, I fear that you simply lack sufficient understanding of the several subjects and disciplines involved to back up your rather exaggerated opinions. In short a discussion with you isn't worth the effort.

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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 10:30 pm
Dutch Consortium to Convert Methanol Plant to BioMethanol
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/11/dutch_consortiu.html

How is methanol converted into ethanol?

Can a combustion engine be built to run on methanol?
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2012 01:04 am
Any thoughts on this?

Could hemp (along with wind/solar etc) save us from nuclear self destruction?
Hemp as a Fuel / Energy Source

http://www.hemphasis.net/Fuel-Energy/fuel.htm

https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/525877_10151021670581023_1436686836_n.jpg

Hemp fuel will displace the petrochemical toxic energy of today with a clean, carbon negative biofuel. It is the most productive source of biodiesel by a factor or more than three. Soybeans, sunflower seed and canola/rapeseed, each produce 100-120 gallons of seed oil per US acre, while hemp makes more than 300 gallons. The byproduct from making that oil is 6,000 pounds of high protein hemp seed meal, 6-10 tons of hemp bast fiber and 25 tons of hemp hurd fiber. Wipe out world hunger, realign our economy, stop deforestation, cut pollution, restore balance.
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2012 01:14 am
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527598_466218936723216_1806321060_n.jpg
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2012 02:44 am
I get knocked down but I get back up again Smile
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/562078_448312298520423_998740009_n.jpg
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2012 02:50 am
Green energy cable to link Germany and Norway
http://www.thelocal.de/money/20120621-43307.html
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Tue 26 Jun, 2012 04:19 pm
The Energy Lie (Suppression Of Technological Evolution, The Evidence)
http://www.trueactivist.com/the-energy-lie-suppression-of-technological-evolution-the-evidence/
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Wed 27 Jun, 2012 05:59 am
Tar sands pipelines are even worse than you think
http://blog.sfgate.com/mbrune/2012/06/26/tar-sands-pipelines-are-even-worse-than-you-think/
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2012 02:26 pm
New Hydro-Electric plant in Quebec
http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Economie/2012/06/28/009-inauguration-centrale-eastmain-charest.shtml
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 04:52 pm
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