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phpBB Search Engine Optimization - Sessions, static ( SEO )

 
 
Craven de Kere
 
  1  
Reply Wed 19 Nov, 2003 07:17 am
In regard to the question about that software:

Thgat uses a method called "cloaking". If search engines catch you doing that they will remove you from the search engine.

It's best not to use cloaking or anything that attempts to trick the search engines.
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graziano
 
  1  
Reply Wed 19 Nov, 2003 07:24 am
Thanks Craven . Me too I was thinking that having Adsense get more points ... Regarding the software , ok thank you I will stay far from it.

Bye
Graziano
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graziano
 
  1  
Reply Wed 19 Nov, 2003 10:54 am
@Craven

I applied your mod , next 2 or 3 weeks I will tell you if my forum has been indexed from google , I hope Smile

I noticed you are not using customized Meta tags on your forum
(inside overall_header.tpl you can edit meta) .
What do you think ,it's a bad idea to customize all forum (overall_header.tpl) with meta tags (keywords and description for example) ?

Thank you
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Craven de Kere
 
  1  
Reply Wed 19 Nov, 2003 11:02 am
graziano,

You'll need inbound links for Google to want to spider and index you, but at least now it can do so if it wants to.

Meta tags are good for a site with restricted focus. But very few search engines use meta tags. On the forums I don't use meta tags because the content is too diverse. I will eventually put something generic in there but haven't done so yet because it would make little difference here.

But elsewhere on this site I use meta tags to get an added advantage in very targeted pages.

I used to use code to dynamically insert meta tags with the forums. I might clean that code up and publish it, but first I have to find it.
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graziano
 
  1  
Reply Wed 19 Nov, 2003 11:10 am
@Craven
understood , thank you .
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B-truE
 
  1  
Reply Wed 19 Nov, 2003 02:11 pm
I noticed in the search engine the titles contain "View Topic" in them. I have applied all the mods here. Do you think that the engine spidered my site, before I made the viewtopic.php mod that you later added, and that this is why it appears that way (with View Topic titles) in the search engine? Do you think this will go away with the next spider visit, or do you think I am missing something?
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B-truE
 
  1  
Reply Wed 19 Nov, 2003 02:13 pm
By the way, I would like to sincerely thank you Craven for helping us all with this. The phpBB forum was so confusing and perhaps contradictory in regard to optimizing phpBB for Google.

Thank you very much! Smile
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B-truE
 
  1  
Reply Wed 19 Nov, 2003 02:15 pm
By the way, Craven, do you have any other tips to point us to which will help make our forums increase their Google postition/pagerank?

Thanks.
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Craven de Kere
 
  1  
Reply Wed 19 Nov, 2003 09:21 pm
B-truE wrote:
I noticed in the search engine the titles contain "View Topic" in them. I have applied all the mods here. Do you think that the engine spidered my site, before I made the viewtopic.php mod that you later added, and that this is why it appears that way (with View Topic titles) in the search engine? Do you think this will go away with the next spider visit, or do you think I am missing something?


Yeah, next time those pages are spidered they will be flagged for an update.

As to what you can do to increase page rank you need to note that Google penalizes the viewtopic and viewforum pages, so keyword frequency and avoiding keyword dillution is the key.

But to improve your overall page rank just exchange links with other sites.
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B-truE
 
  1  
Reply Wed 19 Nov, 2003 09:34 pm
Craven de Kere wrote:
Yeah, next time those pages are spidered they will be flagged for an update.


Ok, thanks.

Craven de Kere wrote:

As to what you can do to increase page rank you need to note that Google penalizes the viewtopic and viewforum pages, so keyword frequency and avoiding keyword dillution is the key.


Please elaborate (explain) a little more on the above. Thanks.

Craven de Kere wrote:

But to improve your overall page rank just exchange links with other sites.


Got any tips on how to go about finding others to exchange with - or the approach...?

Thanks.

B-truE
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Craven de Kere
 
  1  
Reply Wed 19 Nov, 2003 10:07 pm
Google recently reduced the page rank of all phpb forums' viewtopic and viewforum pages to almost 0.

My viewtopic and viewforum pages used to be a 4-5.

I think if those files are renamed there will be no penalization but I'm not going to do that here yet.

Optimizing the pages is not just about PR, it's about the war the search engines actually work.

Changing the page titles makes a huge difference.


As to getting reiprocal links I suggest you approach sites that have a similar theme and similar popularity (don;t ask a huge site for a reciprocal link if you have no page rank for example) to exchange links.

I recommend against any link exchange programs or schemes unless you know them well. Some schemes will get you banned from search engines.
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graziano
 
  1  
Reply Fri 21 Nov, 2003 06:11 am
A question (fairly off topic) . Craven , do you use any kind of promotional software to promote your forum/sites ?.If yes what you suggest ? I use Add Web Pro 6 , and Traffic Seeker 6.65 (also if these 2 don't seem really useful) .

Thank you
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Craven de Kere
 
  1  
Reply Fri 21 Nov, 2003 10:25 am
I don't use any promotional software. Most of them tend to hurt more than help.
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RammsteinNicCage
 
  1  
Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2003 09:31 pm
I tried this out on one of my forums and I got a parse error. I figured I'd try it on another one and got a parse error on that one too. I thought it might be conflicting with one of the mods installed, so I tried it on a clean copy of phpbb... still got the parse error.

Parse error: parse error in /forum/index.php on line 402

Lines 391-421:

Code: if ( $forum_data[$j]['forum_last_post_id'] )
{
$last_post_time = create_date($board_config['default_dateformat'], $forum_data[$j]['post_time'], $board_config['board_timezone']);

$last_post = '<a href="' . append_sid("viewtopic.$phpEx?" . POST_POST_URL . '=' . $forum_data[$j]['forum_last_post_id']) . '#' . $forum_data[$j]['forum_last_post_id'] . '" title="' . $lang['View_latest_post'] . '">' . $last_post_time . '</a>' . '<br />';

$last_post .= ( $forum_data[$j]['user_id'] == ANONYMOUS ) ? ( ($forum_data[$j]['post_username'] != '' ) ? $forum_data[$j]['post_username'] . ' ' : $lang['Guest'] . ' ' ) : $forum_data[$j]['username']

/*
$last_post .= '<a href="' . append_sid("viewtopic.$phpEx?" . POST_POST_URL . '=' . $forum_data[$j]['forum_last_post_id']) . '#' . $forum_data[$j]['forum_last_post_id'] . '"><img src="' . $images['icon_latest_reply'] . '" border="0" alt="' . $lang['View_latest_post'] . '" title="' . $lang['View_latest_post'] . '" /></a>';
*/
}
else
{
$last_post = $lang['No_Posts'];
}

/*
if ( count($forum_moderators[$forum_id]) > 0 )
{
$l_moderators = ( count($forum_moderators[$forum_id]) == 1 ) ? $lang['Moderator'] : $lang['Moderators'];
$moderator_list = implode(', ', $forum_moderators[$forum_id]);
}
else
{
$l_moderators = ' ';
$moderator_list = ' ';
}
*/

$row_color = ( !($i % 2) ) ? $theme['td_color1'] : $theme['td_color2'];


On all three of them, it happened on the same line with just the "}" before "else." I checked my modifications three times on one of the sites and still came up with the same error. Any idea what could be wrong?

Jennifer
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Craven de Kere
 
  1  
Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2003 10:16 pm
Try simply removing the lines instead of commenting them out.

Everyone's errors seem to be centered around a few lines I tell people to comment out. Deleting them works just as well, I only say to comment them out because phpbb's mod style guidelines do not include a "delete" action.

So if you want, simply delete the lines that my mod instructs you to comment out.
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RammsteinNicCage
 
  1  
Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2003 10:44 pm
Tried that and still same result. Sad

Jennifer
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Craven de Kere
 
  1  
Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2003 11:13 pm
I think you are making a mistake with the code replacements, possibly due to word wrap.

Test this index.php file:

Code:<?php
/***************************************************************************
* index.php
* -------------------
* begin : Saturday, Feb 13, 2001
* copyright : (C) 2001 The phpBB Group
* email : [email protected]
*
* $Id: index.php,v 1.99.2.1 2002/12/19 17:17:40 psotfx Exp $
*
*
***************************************************************************/

/***************************************************************************
*
* This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
* it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
* the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
* (at your option) any later version.
*
***************************************************************************/

define('IN_PHPBB', true);
$phpbb_root_path = './';
include($phpbb_root_path . 'extension.inc');
include($phpbb_root_path . 'common.'.$phpEx);

//
// Start session management
//
$userdata = session_pagestart($user_ip, PAGE_INDEX);
init_userprefs($userdata);
//
// End session management
//

$viewcat = ( !empty($HTTP_GET_VARS[POST_CAT_URL]) ) ? $HTTP_GET_VARS[POST_CAT_URL] : -1;

if( isset($HTTP_GET_VARS['mark']) || isset($HTTP_POST_VARS['mark']) )
{
$mark_read = ( isset($HTTP_POST_VARS['mark']) ) ? $HTTP_POST_VARS['mark'] : $HTTP_GET_VARS['mark'];
}
else
{
$mark_read = '';
}

//
// Handle marking posts
//
if( $mark_read == 'forums' )
{
if( $userdata['session_logged_in'] )
{
setcookie($board_config['cookie_name'] . '_f_all', time(), 0, $board_config['cookie_path'], $board_config['cookie_domain'], $board_config['cookie_secure']);
}

$template->assign_vars(array(
"META" => '<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="3;url=' .append_sid("index.$phpEx") . '">')
);

$message = $lang['Forums_marked_read'] . '<br /><br />' . sprintf($lang['Click_return_index'], '<a href="' . append_sid("index.$phpEx") . '">', '</a> ');

message_die(GENERAL_MESSAGE, $message);
}
//
// End handle marking posts
//

$tracking_topics = ( isset($HTTP_COOKIE_VARS[$board_config['cookie_name'] . '_t']) ) ? unserialize($HTTP_COOKIE_VARS[$board_config['cookie_name'] . "_t"]) : array();
$tracking_forums = ( isset($HTTP_COOKIE_VARS[$board_config['cookie_name'] . '_f']) ) ? unserialize($HTTP_COOKIE_VARS[$board_config['cookie_name'] . "_f"]) : array();

//
// If you don't use these stats on your index you may want to consider
// removing them
//
$total_posts = get_db_stat('postcount');
$total_users = get_db_stat('usercount');
$newest_userdata = get_db_stat('newestuser');
$newest_user = $newest_userdata['username'];
$newest_uid = $newest_userdata['user_id'];

if( $total_posts == 0 )
{
$l_total_post_s = $lang['Posted_articles_zero_total'];
}
else if( $total_posts == 1 )
{
$l_total_post_s = $lang['Posted_article_total'];
}
else
{
$l_total_post_s = $lang['Posted_articles_total'];
}

if( $total_users == 0 )
{
$l_total_user_s = $lang['Registered_users_zero_total'];
}
else if( $total_users == 1 )
{
$l_total_user_s = $lang['Registered_user_total'];
}
else
{
$l_total_user_s = $lang['Registered_users_total'];
}


//
// Start page proper
//
$sql = "SELECT c.cat_id, c.cat_title, c.cat_order
FROM " . CATEGORIES_TABLE . " c
ORDER BY c.cat_order";
if( !($result = $db->sql_query($sql)) )
{
message_die(GENERAL_ERROR, 'Could not query categories list', '', __LINE__, __FILE__, $sql);
}

while( $category_rows[] = $db->sql_fetchrow($result) );

if( ( $total_categories = count($category_rows) ) )
{
//
// Define appropriate SQL
//
switch(SQL_LAYER)
{
case 'postgresql':
$sql = "SELECT f.*, p.post_time, p.post_username, u.username, u.user_id
FROM " . FORUMS_TABLE . " f, " . POSTS_TABLE . " p, " . USERS_TABLE . " u
WHERE p.post_id = f.forum_last_post_id
AND u.user_id = p.poster_id
UNION (
SELECT f.*, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL
FROM " . FORUMS_TABLE . " f
WHERE NOT EXISTS (
SELECT p.post_time
FROM " . POSTS_TABLE . " p
WHERE p.post_id = f.forum_last_post_id
)
)
ORDER BY cat_id, forum_order";
break;

case 'oracle':
$sql = "SELECT f.*, p.post_time, p.post_username, u.username, u.user_id
FROM " . FORUMS_TABLE . " f, " . POSTS_TABLE . " p, " . USERS_TABLE . " u
WHERE p.post_id = f.forum_last_post_id(+)
AND u.user_id = p.poster_id(+)
ORDER BY f.cat_id, f.forum_order";
break;

default:
$sql = "SELECT f.*, p.post_time, p.post_username, u.username, u.user_id
FROM (( " . FORUMS_TABLE . " f
LEFT JOIN " . POSTS_TABLE . " p ON p.post_id = f.forum_last_post_id )
LEFT JOIN " . USERS_TABLE . " u ON u.user_id = p.poster_id )
ORDER BY f.cat_id, f.forum_order";
break;
}
if ( !($result = $db->sql_query($sql)) )
{
message_die(GENERAL_ERROR, 'Could not query forums information', '', __LINE__, __FILE__, $sql);
}

$forum_data = array();
while( $row = $db->sql_fetchrow($result) )
{
$forum_data[] = $row;
}

if ( !($total_forums = count($forum_data)) )
{
message_die(GENERAL_MESSAGE, $lang['No_forums']);
}

//
// Obtain a list of topic ids which contain
// posts made since user last visited
//
if ( $userdata['session_logged_in'] )
{
$sql = "SELECT t.forum_id, t.topic_id, p.post_time
FROM " . TOPICS_TABLE . " t, " . POSTS_TABLE . " p
WHERE p.post_id = t.topic_last_post_id
AND p.post_time > " . $userdata['user_lastvisit'] . "
AND t.topic_moved_id = 0";
if ( !($result = $db->sql_query($sql)) )
{
message_die(GENERAL_ERROR, 'Could not query new topic information', '', __LINE__, __FILE__, $sql);
}

$new_topic_data = array();
while( $topic_data = $db->sql_fetchrow($result) )
{
$new_topic_data[$topic_data['forum_id']][$topic_data['topic_id']] = $topic_data['post_time'];
}
}

//
// Obtain list of moderators of each forum
// First users, then groups ... broken into two queries
//
$sql = "SELECT aa.forum_id, u.user_id, u.username
FROM " . AUTH_ACCESS_TABLE . " aa, " . USER_GROUP_TABLE . " ug, " . GROUPS_TABLE . " g, " . USERS_TABLE . " u
WHERE aa.auth_mod = " . TRUE . "
AND g.group_single_user = 1
AND ug.group_id = aa.group_id
AND g.group_id = aa.group_id
AND u.user_id = ug.user_id
GROUP BY u.user_id, u.username, aa.forum_id
ORDER BY aa.forum_id, u.user_id";
if ( !($result = $db->sql_query($sql)) )
{
message_die(GENERAL_ERROR, 'Could not query forum moderator information', '', __LINE__, __FILE__, $sql);
}

$forum_moderators = array();
while( $row = $db->sql_fetchrow($result) )
{
$forum_moderators[$row['forum_id']][] = '<a href="' . append_sid("profile.$phpEx?mode=viewprofile&" . POST_USERS_URL . "=" . $row['user_id']) . '">' . $row['username'] . '</a>';
}

$sql = "SELECT aa.forum_id, g.group_id, g.group_name
FROM " . AUTH_ACCESS_TABLE . " aa, " . USER_GROUP_TABLE . " ug, " . GROUPS_TABLE . " g
WHERE aa.auth_mod = " . TRUE . "
AND g.group_single_user = 0
AND g.group_type <> " . GROUP_HIDDEN . "
AND ug.group_id = aa.group_id
AND g.group_id = aa.group_id
GROUP BY g.group_id, g.group_name, aa.forum_id
ORDER BY aa.forum_id, g.group_id";
if ( !($result = $db->sql_query($sql)) )
{
message_die(GENERAL_ERROR, 'Could not query forum moderator information', '', __LINE__, __FILE__, $sql);
}

while( $row = $db->sql_fetchrow($result) )
{
$forum_moderators[$row['forum_id']][] = '<a href="' . append_sid("groupcp.$phpEx?" . POST_GROUPS_URL . "=" . $row['group_id']) . '">' . $row['group_name'] . '</a>';
}

//
// Find which forums are visible for this user
//
$is_auth_ary = array();
$is_auth_ary = auth(AUTH_VIEW, AUTH_LIST_ALL, $userdata, $forum_data);

//
// Start output of page
//
define('SHOW_ONLINE', true);
$page_title = $lang['Index'];
include($phpbb_root_path . 'includes/page_header.'.$phpEx);

$template->set_filenames(array(
'body' => 'index_body.tpl')
);

$template->assign_vars(array(
'TOTAL_POSTS' => sprintf($l_total_post_s, $total_posts),
'TOTAL_USERS' => sprintf($l_total_user_s, $total_users),
'NEWEST_USER' => sprintf($lang['Newest_user'], '<a href="' . append_sid("profile.$phpEx?mode=viewprofile&" . POST_USERS_URL . "=$newest_uid") . '">', $newest_user, '</a>'),

'FORUM_IMG' => $images['forum'],
'FORUM_NEW_IMG' => $images['forum_new'],
'FORUM_LOCKED_IMG' => $images['forum_locked'],

'L_FORUM' => $lang['Forum'],
'L_TOPICS' => $lang['Topics'],
'L_REPLIES' => $lang['Replies'],
'L_VIEWS' => $lang['Views'],
'L_POSTS' => $lang['Posts'],
'L_LASTPOST' => $lang['Last_Post'],
'L_NO_NEW_POSTS' => $lang['No_new_posts'],
'L_NEW_POSTS' => $lang['New_posts'],
'L_NO_NEW_POSTS_LOCKED' => $lang['No_new_posts_locked'],
'L_NEW_POSTS_LOCKED' => $lang['New_posts_locked'],
'L_ONLINE_EXPLAIN' => $lang['Online_explain'],

'L_MODERATOR' => $lang['Moderators'],
'L_FORUM_LOCKED' => $lang['Forum_is_locked'],
'L_MARK_FORUMS_READ' => $lang['Mark_all_forums'],

'U_MARK_READ' => append_sid("index.$phpEx?mark=forums"))
);

//
// Okay, let's build the index
//
for($i = 0; $i < $total_categories; $i++)
{
$cat_id = $category_rows[$i]['cat_id'];

//
// Should we display this category/forum set?
//
$display_forums = false;
for($j = 0; $j < $total_forums; $j++)
{
if ( $is_auth_ary[$forum_data[$j]['forum_id']]['auth_view'] && $forum_data[$j]['cat_id'] == $cat_id )
{
$display_forums = true;
}
}

//
// Yes, we should, so first dump out the category
// title, then, if appropriate the forum list
//
if ( $display_forums )
{
$template->assign_block_vars('catrow', array(
'CAT_ID' => $cat_id,
'CAT_DESC' => $category_rows[$i]['cat_title'],
'U_VIEWCAT' => append_sid("index.$phpEx?" . POST_CAT_URL . "=$cat_id"))
);

if ( $viewcat == $cat_id || $viewcat == -1 )
{
for($j = 0; $j < $total_forums; $j++)
{
if ( $forum_data[$j]['cat_id'] == $cat_id )
{
$forum_id = $forum_data[$j]['forum_id'];

if ( $is_auth_ary[$forum_id]['auth_view'] )
{
if ( $forum_data[$j]['forum_status'] == FORUM_LOCKED )
{
$folder_image = $images['forum_locked'];
$folder_alt = $lang['Forum_locked'];
}
else
{
$unread_topics = false;
if ( $userdata['session_logged_in'] )
{
if ( !empty($new_topic_data[$forum_id]) )
{
$forum_last_post_time = 0;

while( list($check_topic_id, $check_post_time) = @each($new_topic_data[$forum_id]) )
{
if ( empty($tracking_topics[$check_topic_id]) )
{
$unread_topics = true;
$forum_last_post_time = max($check_post_time, $forum_last_post_time);

}
else
{
if ( $tracking_topics[$check_topic_id] < $check_post_time )
{
$unread_topics = true;
$forum_last_post_time = max($check_post_time, $forum_last_post_time);
}
}
}

if ( !empty($tracking_forums[$forum_id]) )
{
if ( $tracking_forums[$forum_id] > $forum_last_post_time )
{
$unread_topics = false;
}
}

if ( isset($HTTP_COOKIE_VARS[$board_config['cookie_name'] . '_f_all']) )
{
if ( $HTTP_COOKIE_VARS[$board_config['cookie_name'] . '_f_all'] > $forum_last_post_time )
{
$unread_topics = false;
}
}

}
}

$folder_image = ( $unread_topics ) ? $images['forum_new'] : $images['forum'];
$folder_alt = ( $unread_topics ) ? $lang['New_posts'] : $lang['No_new_posts'];
}

$posts = $forum_data[$j]['forum_posts'];
$topics = $forum_data[$j]['forum_topics'];

if ( $forum_data[$j]['forum_last_post_id'] )
{
$last_post_time = create_date($board_config['default_dateformat'], $forum_data[$j]['post_time'], $board_config['board_timezone']);

$last_post = '<a href="' . append_sid("viewtopic.$phpEx?" . POST_POST_URL . '=' . $forum_data[$j]['forum_last_post_id']) . '#' . $forum_data[$j]['forum_last_post_id'] . '" title="' . $lang['View_latest_post'] . '">' . $last_post_time . '</a>' . '<br />';

$last_post .= ( $forum_data[$j]['user_id'] == ANONYMOUS ) ? ( ($forum_data[$j]['post_username'] != '' ) ? $forum_data[$j]['post_username'] . ' ' : $lang['Guest'] . ' ' ) : $forum_data[$j]['username']

/*
$last_post .= '<a href="' . append_sid("viewtopic.$phpEx?" . POST_POST_URL . '=' . $forum_data[$j]['forum_last_post_id']) . '#' . $forum_data[$j]['forum_last_post_id'] . '"><img src="' . $images['icon_latest_reply'] . '" border="0" alt="' . $lang['View_latest_post'] . '" title="' . $lang['View_latest_post'] . '" /></a>';
*/
}
else
{
$last_post = $lang['No_Posts'];
}

if ( count($forum_moderators[$forum_id]) > 0 )
{
$l_moderators = ( count($forum_moderators[$forum_id]) == 1 ) ? $lang['Moderator'] : $lang['Moderators'];
$moderator_list = implode(', ', $forum_moderators[$forum_id]);
}
else
{
$l_moderators = ' ';
$moderator_list = ' ';
}

$row_color = ( !($i % 2) ) ? $theme['td_color1'] : $theme['td_color2'];
$row_class = ( !($i % 2) ) ? $theme['td_class1'] : $theme['td_class2'];

$template->assign_block_vars('catrow.forumrow', array(
'ROW_COLOR' => '#' . $row_color,
'ROW_CLASS' => $row_class,
'FORUM_FOLDER_IMG' => $folder_image,
'FORUM_NAME' => $forum_data[$j]['forum_name'],
'FORUM_DESC' => $forum_data[$j]['forum_desc'],
'POSTS' => $forum_data[$j]['forum_posts'],
'TOPICS' => $forum_data[$j]['forum_topics'],
'LAST_POST' => $last_post,
'MODERATORS' => $moderator_list,

'L_MODERATOR' => $l_moderators,
'L_FORUM_FOLDER_ALT' => $folder_alt,

'U_VIEWFORUM' => append_sid("viewforum.$phpEx?" . POST_FORUM_URL . "=$forum_id"))
);
}
}
}
}
}
} // for ... categories

}// if ... total_categories
else
{
message_die(GENERAL_MESSAGE, $lang['No_forums']);
}

//
// Generate the page
//
$template->pparse('body');

include($phpbb_root_path . 'includes/page_tail.'.$phpEx);

?>
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RammsteinNicCage
 
  1  
Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2003 11:18 pm
Still not working.... Confused

Jennifer
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Craven de Kere
 
  1  
Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2003 11:37 pm
What other mods do you have installed? Did you test that on a vanilla forum?
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RammsteinNicCage
 
  1  
Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2003 11:57 pm
I'm testing on vanilla right now, still no luck.

Jennifer
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