Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 01:38 pm
Interesting story to me, an apparent long term credentials fraud but one so intricate that I wonder if the fellow needs psychiatric treatment, at the same time I figure his being caught and paying his dues legally for the apparent offenses would be a good thing.

Also interesting that the school wouldn't catch it until now, which I can understand, since so many students who apply to Harvard actually do have perfect grades.
story here: Bail set at $5K in alleged Harvard student scam
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boomerang
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 02:09 pm
Wow.

If you're going to steal something, a Harvard education is a pretty good thing to steal.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 02:15 pm
Grand Theft-Education. CEO or Politics?
talk72000
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 02:16 pm
@boomerang,
GWB did it and no one is after him. It shows he stole by what he did to the US economy. Don't tell me Harvard University taught him to create such a disaster. If he got it legitimately then Harvard University ain't what it used to be. It's just all hype.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 02:17 pm
@dyslexia,
Actually I knew quite a few athletes who got university degrees for essentially the same thing.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 02:19 pm
@ossobuco,
He's no Frank Abagnale, Jr.
boomerang
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 02:26 pm
@DrewDad,
Abagnale was the guest speaker at a business seminar I went to a long time ago. HILARIOUS! He spent an hour and a half telling about his exploits and 5 minutes explaining why it was wrong.

The Saturday Night "Liar Guy" was based on him.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 02:33 pm
@talk72000,
I thought GWB went to Yale. But I could easily be wrong.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 02:34 pm
Who's the real crook?

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talk72000
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 02:35 pm
@ossobuco,
He went to Yale and got his MBA from Harvard University - Master of Business Atrocity.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 02:36 pm
@DrewDad,
I'd never heard of him before, eek!

This all sort of reminds me of that kid doing all the burglaries in the northwest.. not yet caught, but with an existing fan base.
talk72000
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 02:54 pm
@ossobuco,
There was a movie about him 'Catch me if you can' starring Leonardo DiCaprio as Frank and Tom Hanks as the FBI inspector after him in a round the world scam hunt.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 02:56 pm
@roger,
I'm the one who went to UCLA for $19.00 fee for my first semester, and $26. for my second. By the time I left, it was up to $76. I could go there because I lived at home, paying for books, clothes, etc. from my 30+ hour work week yielding not much $. Tuition for state universities came later, glad I missed that... I consider myself wildly lucky. I suppose I could have gotten a scholarship, but I'd been turned down w good california scholarship federation creds because my dad had made a bunch of money in a single month period the year before (unemployed the rest of the year, and most of the rest of his years). Dummy never made another attempt at getting a scholarship.

I'm no one to critique the ivy league universities re if they are actually better, other than for connections, than some other schools. In my window of time, anybody with the grades and SATs could get in to UC, and pay the low fees. There was some resentment to another local school, USC, which to us seemed more connections oriented both for getting in and after you got out, not to mention costing much more money.

One of my preferreds (oh, well) is that tuition free universities were prevalent and war materiel less funded.

Off of soap box, onto fraud during school days...

ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2010 03:10 pm
@ossobuco,
Two more points :
- back then, the student body was pretty diverse re family incomes. One of my friends, still a friend, was one of eleven kids, in a squeaking money family. I won't say it was diverse re all ethnicities, because schooling in some city and regional areas was lacking.
- that first scholarship I didn't get was for the place I went first, Mt. St. Mary's College, and am now sort of glad I did go there as it worked as a cultural transition from my insular high school to the big university.

enough, back to fraud..
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